There are two ways for a player system to be placed into reroll. One is to have the switch turned to the 'reroll' position.
The other is the reroll function itself. Reroll is engaged at the end of the roll when the ports on the tracker bar are exposed to trigger the reroll. These ports (square holes) are at one or both ends of the row of ports.
If the switch is in 'play' mode; then you have an air leak (dislodged tubing)
Older players do not have an auto-reroll function because they were not electric or self-propelled. The pianolist (the one pumping the foot pedals) would move the lever to 'reroll' at the end of the roll and continue pumping until the roll went back to the beginning. It wasn't until electrification made the piano play automatically, then an auto-reroll function was needed or the paper would have been torn away from the core tube. Because the player mechanism didn't know when to stop. If this happens, a single piece of tape in the center will allow the paper to re-register itself. Do Not tape the length of the paper to the core tube.
Older players can be retro-fit with auto-reroll but you have to use the end note holes (plug tubing to the valves) as triggers and cut appropriate holes in the paper. Two holes are needed to insure enough atmosphere to trigger the new reroll valve. Vacuum would also have to be delivered to the new reroll valve. It's fairly simple mechanics.
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Jon Page
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Original Message:
Sent: 09-11-2022 00:27
From: Benjamin Sanchez
Subject: 1961 K&C with Lemac Player Stuck in Reverse
Thank you all for the suggestions. James, another technician referred me to Louis a few hours ago. I'll give him a call Monday. Jon, I found that website this afternoon and, after almost an hour of searching, found and purchased the correct manual. Going through that I understand better what I'm looking at. Between the manual and help from John Tuttle, who runs the site, I think (hope, pray) I've figured out what the problem is.
Of course, further suggestions are still appreciated as I'm not entirely sure what exactly will work. Thanks!
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Benjamin Sanchez, RPT
Piano Technician / Artisan
(256) 947-9999
www.professional-piano-services.com
Original Message:
Sent: 09-10-2022 22:55
From: Jon Page
Subject: 1961 K&C with Lemac Player Stuck in Reverse
You will fund technical info at this site: player-care.com
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Jon Page
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Original Message:
Sent: 09-10-2022 22:40
From: James Kelly
Subject: 1961 K&C with Lemac Player Stuck in Reverse
Contact Louis Gentile in Braintree Massachusetts. He is not in PTG but he has bailed me out several times and is very knowledgeable when it comes to players that use paper rolls. Her services many players in towns north of boston. There is a fellow in my Chapter that I can try to reach out to. Another piano tech here that knows these old players is located in Greenville. I am not familiar with type of player but the last time I serviced a paper roll player I purchased a copy of the manual from someone on the internet and was able to fix the issue. Louis can be found by using google . His company is Louis Gentile Piano Service.
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James Kelly
Owner- Fur Elise Piano Service
Pawleys Island SC
(843) 325-4357
Original Message:
Sent: 09-10-2022 16:46
From: Jon Page
Subject: 1961 K&C with Lemac Player Stuck in Reverse
Have you checked to see if the reroll switch is on? Are the tubes from the tracker bar to signal reroll dislodged at the bar or switch? There might be a "Y" connector loose. The tubes run from the ends of the row of notes to the switch, not the tracking holes further out.
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Regards,
Jon Page
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http://www.pianocapecod.com
Original Message:
Sent: 09-10-2022 13:47
From: Benjamin Sanchez
Subject: 1961 K&C with Lemac Player Stuck in Reverse
I'm sorry, there's a little confusion due to the way I wrote my original post. The roll is only going in reverse. The notes all played previously but are not engaging when the roll is being rewound.
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Benjamin Sanchez, RPT
Piano Technician / Artisan
(256) 947-9999
www.professional-piano-services.com
Original Message:
Sent: 09-10-2022 13:34
From: Jon Page
Subject: 1961 K&C with Lemac Player Stuck in Reverse
There are two main issues. It's stuck in reroll and the notes are playing. You'll have to hire a player tech to figure out why the cut out switch is not engaged (notes playing) and why it's in reroll.
My best advise on these is to stay away from them. I personally do not touch them.
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Jon Page
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http://www.pianocapecod.com
Original Message:
Sent: 09-10-2022 11:17
From: Benjamin Sanchez
Subject: 1961 K&C with Lemac Player Stuck in Reverse
Yesterday I serviced a K&C console with a Lemac Player system installed. Not realizing that the brackets were actually hinges, I spent over an hour removing and replacing the player only to realize that it would have just tilted up. See the attached pictures.
I didn't disconnect any of the wires, just moved them out of the way. However, when I reinstalled the thing, it's only playing the rolls in reverse! I have no idea what I did or how to fix it. I've learned my lesson to pay better attention next time - but in the mean time, help!
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Benjamin Sanchez, RPT
Piano Technician / Artisan
(256) 947-9999
www.professional-piano-services.com
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