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Bandsaw options for small shop

  • 1.  Bandsaw options for small shop

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 25 days ago

    After moving my rebuilding shop from a friend's machine shop with awesome equipment to my new small shop, I had to quite some tools which are mostly inferior to his state-of-the-art equipment in the machine shop. I have an old Rockwell 14" bandsaw, 3/4 HP. After cutting the last pinblock, I quickly realized this is not my best long-term solution- not enough power, it took forever to cut through.

    I am wondering if trying to find a larger motor would be worthwhile for this unit, or if I really should consider getting a more heavy duty saw? I like the size of this model since space is limited. Any thoughts on HP for this application, motor replacement, etc. would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks!



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    Tim Foster RPT
    New Oxford PA
    (470) 231-6074
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  • 2.  RE: Bandsaw options for small shop

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 23 days ago
    Unless you already ruled out setup and blade sharpness, I kinda don't think horsepower is your problem here.  Try getting a bi-metal blade.  It's a tip I picked up from the late Ron Nossaman... they stay sharp a really long time and cut through pinblock material very well.

    (I'm assuming this is the typical angled cut to match the plate flange.  If you're resawing that's a different story, possibly.)





  • 3.  RE: Bandsaw options for small shop

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 22 days ago

    You could go up to 2 hp and consider using a Timberwolf blade. A 20 or 24 inch bandsaw is a nice upgrade especially one whose table tilts both directions.



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    Parker Leigh RPT
    Winchester VA
    (540) 722-3865
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  • 4.  RE: Bandsaw options for small shop

    Member
    Posted 22 days ago

    May I suggest you go to a Woodcraft or Rockler retail store talk to the gurus there and try out some saws and blades . Bring some chunks of pinblock material to find out the right blade for the job and spend the money that needs to be spent. The cheapest tool is the most expensive in the long run. As far as machine size/hp you need something that will not stall out. you are cutting through some pretty hard wood that is very thick. making jigs using pushsticks having good lighting is essential/ The most dangerous saw in a shop is the band saw because too many users make curved cuts and get careless with safety. A heavy duty stand on a dolly along with a laser showing the cut line is a good feature . 



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    James Kelly
    Owner- Fur Elise Piano Service
    Pawleys Island SC
    (843) 325-4357
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  • 5.  RE: Bandsaw options for small shop

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 22 days ago

    I would suggest Grizzly for new and Exfactory or other auction sources for 20 or 24 inch or larger used bandsaws.  I picked up a 36"  Northfield at an Exfactory auction. Belt drive 5 hp. Weighs 2600 lb and stands almost 8 ft tall. A chore to move though.



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    Parker Leigh RPT
    Winchester VA
    (540) 722-3865
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  • 6.  RE: Bandsaw options for small shop

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 22 days ago

    The tips in this video (from the Wood Whisperer) should greatly improve the performance of any otherwise decent bandsaw:

    https://youtu.be/bxVyKsbuwZQ?is=Ym0DR2udsKIo2rXO

    An older Delta 14" unit should be a pretty good unit. A new blade and a tune up may suffice. The blade guide system is also upgradable on nearly all bandsaws, so that is also an area to explore later.

    Edit: Copy link directly into youtube

    Peter Grey Piano Doctor 



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    Peter Grey
    Stratham NH
    (603) 686-2395
    pianodoctor57@gmail.com
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  • 7.  RE: Bandsaw options for small shop

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 21 days ago

    Upgrades to Delta are:

    Hp to 2hp or better yet variable speed power unit

    Cast iron wheels or new carter tires and wheel brush

    Height increase from 6 to 12 inches

    Kreg or similar fence

    Carter wheel guides - allow blades from 1/8 to 1 inch

    Sturdy mobile base



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    Parker Leigh RPT
    Winchester VA
    (540) 722-3865
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  • 8.  RE: Bandsaw options for small shop

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 20 days ago

    Those Carter guides are seriously good. I've been thinking about making that upgrade for my little Craftsman 12" bandsaw. 

    Peter Grey Piano Doctor 



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    Peter Grey
    Stratham NH
    (603) 686-2395
    pianodoctor57@gmail.com
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  • 9.  RE: Bandsaw options for small shop

    Posted 20 days ago

    I've used a bandsaw my entire career, and never needed a tablesaw. I go through a lot of wood and i needed a bandsaw that can do the job easily. Here's what i ended up doing. I converted my Grizzle 14" into a heavy duty monster. I switched the laughable 1hp motor out for a 7 hp 220 motor. All i did was make a wooden deck that hinges, so just the weight of the motor keeps the belt tight. Horsepower solved. I used 1/2" 4 tpi wood blades. Cheap, cuts through anything easily. I usually by a dozen at a time and can barely remember how long ago i purchased them with 6 still in the box. Also, grizzly has terrible guides so i upgraded to carter a while back and I wouldn't trade or sell my bandsaw for nothing. I cut through pinblock, spruce, Osage, Jatoba, maple, hickory, oak, ash, no problems at all.

    -chris



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    Chernobieff Piano Restorations
    chrisppff@gmail.com
    Youtube@chernobieffpiano
    865-986-7720 (text only please)
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  • 10.  RE: Bandsaw options for small shop

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 18 days ago

    Chris, this is incredibly helpful, if you are willing, I would love to see some photos. Thanks!



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    Tim Foster RPT
    New Oxford PA
    (470) 231-6074
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  • 11.  RE: Bandsaw options for small shop

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 18 days ago

    3 hp would normally be the max for a 14.  Spend the rest of your money on high quality blades, cast iron wheels, carter guides.and a wheel brush.



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    Parker Leigh RPT
    Winchester VA
    (540) 722-3865
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  • 12.  RE: Bandsaw options for small shop

    Posted 18 days ago

    Here are some pics. Horsepower/ motor size comes down to what can fit. All you have to do is maybe change a gear and target the same rpm as it had originally. Same RPM more horsepower!! 



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    Chernobieff Piano Restorations
    chrisppff@gmail.com
    Youtube@chernobieffpiano
    865-986-7720 (text only please)
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  • 13.  RE: Bandsaw options for small shop

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 18 days ago

    Of Course, Chris is probably one of those guys who builds a chainsaw powered by a 500 hp Chevy engine to cut logs (like you see on the internet).  ðŸ¤¡



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    William Truitt RPT
    Bridgewater NH
    (603) 744-2277
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  • 14.  RE: Bandsaw options for small shop

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 17 days ago

    Better yet a McDonaugh 54 Resaw with 150 hp or a McDonaugh Bandmill with 8 foot wheels and 500 hp.



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    Parker Leigh RPT
    Winchester VA
    (540) 722-3865
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  • 15.  RE: Bandsaw options for small shop

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 17 days ago

    Thanks everyone for your help, I just ordered the  Carter guides, a bi-metal blade, a 1/2" 4 TPI wood blade and watched the tune-up video. I will see how my current horsepower holds up with the improvements and upgrade the motor if I need more HP. 



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    Tim Foster RPT
    New Oxford PA
    (470) 231-6074
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  • 16.  RE: Bandsaw options for small shop

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 17 days ago

    Don't forget Carter bandsaw tires and a quick release for blade tension. And a blade brush



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    Parker Leigh RPT
    Winchester VA
    (540) 722-3865
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  • 17.  RE: Bandsaw options for small shop

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 17 days ago

    Parker, how do you add a quick release on an old band saw?



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    Steven Rosenthal RPT
    Honolulu HI
    (808) 521-7129
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  • 18.  RE: Bandsaw options for small shop

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 16 days ago

    Steven:

    I have seen retrofits for Delta/Rockwell 14 bandsaws from Woodcraft, Highland Hardware and other vendors. Some Grizzly models

    have this feature as well. Unreleased tension will over time damage the tires. You might try Carter as well.



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    Parker Leigh RPT
    Winchester VA
    (540) 722-3865
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  • 19.  RE: Bandsaw options for small shop

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 15 days ago
    How often do you release the tension? Won’t that possibly change the blade alignment on the tires?

    Joe Wiencek




  • 20.  RE: Bandsaw options for small shop

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 13 days ago

    Leaving the tension on will damage the tires and bearings. A well designed machine will maintain alignment after tension is released and when it

    is restored. Rikon has a new small bandsaw that has this feature. Carter has products for a great many bandsaws.



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    Parker Leigh RPT
    Winchester VA
    (540) 722-3865
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  • 21.  RE: Bandsaw options for small shop

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 13 days ago
    Thanks for the tip. On my small Rikon, the quick release lever can be positioned so that the tension is not so loose that the blade falls out of alignment. 

    Joe Wiencek





  • 22.  RE: Bandsaw options for small shop

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 16 days ago
    Carter sells a quick release lever that can be added to a variety of saws. Years ago, I added one to my old Delta saw. Now my Laguna14 comes with its own lever.

    Jeannie Grassi
    Registered Piano Technician
    Island Piano Service
    206-200-0279
    grassipianos@gmail.com




  • 23.  RE: Bandsaw options for small shop

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 8 days ago

    Another good bandsaw site is sawblade.com



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    Parker Leigh RPT
    Winchester VA
    (540) 722-3865
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