Pianotech

  • 1.  C Bechstein Cheek Blocks

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 5 days ago

    Greetings

    It appears one can adjust the pressure on the keyframe via these cheek blocks, but how? Is there a hex screw at the end of the hole in the front that drives that pointy thing?

    Be gentle with me...asking first is a new concept.  

    C. Bechstein cheek block


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    Eric Johnson [RPT]
    [Eric Johnson Pianos]
    [Westport] [CT]
    www.ericjohnsonpianos.com
    One year older and dumber.
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  • 2.  RE: C Bechstein Cheek Blocks

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 5 days ago
    I've never done this before, so I'm guessing, but it appears that the downward pressure is controlled by the two cross point screws holding the brass plate. Perhaps loosen those screws slightly, and push the plate all the way down. Then with the action in place, put in the cheek block and allow the action pin to set the height of the brass plate. Then remove the cheek and tighten those screws. I don't think the bolt on top of the brass plate does anything.  At least that's my answer. 

    Wim





  • 3.  RE: C Bechstein Cheek Blocks

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 5 days ago

    With all due respect Wim, I can guess.

    What is not shown is a hole in the front of the cheek that seems to connect to that small pointy piece that is at the top of the rounded brass cutout. It  is only evident if you zoom in. 

    Hopefully someone out there has direct experience/knowledge. 



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    Eric Johnson [RPT]
    [Eric Johnson Pianos]
    [Westport] [CT]
    www.ericjohnsonpianos.com
    One year older and dumber.
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  • 4.  RE: C Bechstein Cheek Blocks

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 4 days ago

    This looks the same as the Hamburg Steinway design that New York Steinway adopted a few years ago, section 6 p.11 of the Steinway technical reference guide from 2005 has instructions. The hex screw will put pressure on the cylinder that pushes up on the block thus tightening the block on the keyframe end pin. Do this with the two phillips screws tight. If you go to far you can back off the hex screw but will need to loosen the two screws to reset it. 

    You can also add a shim between the cylinder and the block if the hex screw gets maxed out, but your photo looks like it can go further. 

    ps. Hi from Northwestern! 



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    Christina Scroggins RPT
    Chicago IL
    (209) 485-2730
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  • 5.  RE: C Bechstein Cheek Blocks

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 4 days ago

    Hey Christina and thanks very much for your reply. 

    So at the end of that long hole in the front is a hex screw connected to that odd pointy thing? I figured something was at the end of that hole but trying to see it was like peering into the abyss (something I have done many times). 

    Thanks for your quick reply and happy Chicago spring. Give my best to Wes. 

    Eric



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    Eric Johnson [RPT]
    [Eric Johnson Pianos]
    [Westport] [CT]
    www.ericjohnsonpianos.com
    One year older and dumber.
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  • 6.  RE: C Bechstein Cheek Blocks

    Posted 4 days ago
    And if you zoom in you'll see a brass Philips screw inside stopping the white insert. So take a look at that as well. It might be that the top chrome piece can easily be adjusted by swiping the finger across it, once the set screw is loosened....but this is meer conjecture....hopefully someone with Bechstein experience will chime in.


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  • 7.  RE: C Bechstein Cheek Blocks

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 3 days ago

    I work for a Bechstein dealer, so I've had to learn to use this system.  Once you understand it, it's fairly simple and very easy to fine adjust.

    I'm not sure the real names, but this is how I describe/understand it.

    You have a steel frame screwed to the cheek block.  Two screw on the underside lock position fore and aft.

    Brass position adjustment - Pushes/pulls the framer fore and aft for strike point adjustment.  Similar to old Steinways.

    Brass Pressure block w/roller - This moves up and down to adjust pressure on the keyframe ends.  The roller allows low friction shifting

    What looks like a capstan is really just a pin.  It gives the adjustment screw something to push against.

    Adjustment screw - This is accessed from the front of the key block.  All the ones I've seen are 3mm Allen screws. The other end is machined as a wedge.  As you push the screw further into the block, the wedge will push against the capstan-like pin, pushing the entire block down.  This allows very fine control over how much pressure is on the key frame ends.

    Keep in mind, this is on a new instrument, they may have been a bit different a few years ago.

    Hope this helps



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    Tom Dowell
    Hulbert Piano
    tom@hulbertpiano.com
    262-221-0792
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  • 8.  RE: C Bechstein Cheek Blocks

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 3 days ago

    Tom, thank you for this most excellent explanation. 

    The piano I'm working on is <5 years old and everything looks exactly like your photos. I especially appreciate your mentioning the allen screw size. 

    Once again, PTG membership pays off!

    Eric



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    Eric Johnson [RPT]
    [Eric Johnson Pianos]
    [Westport] [CT]
    www.ericjohnsonpianos.com
    One year older and dumber.
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