Hi, Tim,
Bill beat me to it. (Hi, Bill!)
In addition to the Erard Bill mentions, it occurs to me that, with the
number of people building pianos all over Europe in the 19th C, there
could have been any number of makers experimenting with range in
different ways before things got generally (but only generally)
stabilized at 88 notes in the last quarter of that period.
Decades ago, I had a handful of clients in LA who owned a variety of
pre-WWI pianos from various makers, including Erards, Pleyels,
Broadwoods, and some other names that now escape me. One of the Erards
was 90 notes, as was one of the Pleyels. There were probably others;
but that was a long time ago.
Subject to information from someone more informed by myself, the first
company to introduce extended ranges to their instruments on a regular
production basis was Bosendorfer. They got into that business on the
request of Ferruccio Busoni, around 1909, who was working on his
transcriptions of various Bach Organ works.
In more recent news, piano maker Wayne Stuart (Australia) introduced a
108-note piano in 2018. The utility of his design remains to be seen.
I hope that some of this is useful. If not, please just delete it.
Kind regards.
Horace
On 5/1/2023 5:39 PM, Tim Foster via Piano Technicians Guild wrote:
> Excellent, thank you! Do you have a list of names off the top of your head with extra notes?
>
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> Original Message:
> Sent: 05-01-2023 20:27
> From: William Shull
> Subject: G0 pre-1883
>
> Pianos with more than an 88-note compass were built in the later 19th century.
> Period Piano Collection includes an Erard 8'6" 90 note piano which begins at G 0. This model goes back in production at least to the 1870s. Other European builders built pianos with compasses larger than 88 notes too.
> Bill
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> Original Message:
> Sent: 5/1/2023 4:15:00 PM
> From: Robert Anderson
> Subject: RE: G0 pre-1883
>
> That's it, Peter.
>
> Bob Anderson, RPT
> Tucson, AZ
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>
> Original Message:
> Sent: 5/1/2023 2:43:00 PM
> From: Peter Grey
> Subject: RE: G0 pre-1883
>
>
> Bob,
>
> If I'm reading this right you took A0 and brought down to an octave below F1. Is this correct?
>
> Peter Grey Piano Doctor
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> Original Message:
> Sent: 05-01-2023 10:27
> From: Robert Anderson
> Subject: G0 pre-1883
>
> Along this line, I tuned A0 to F0 years ago for Tucson pianist Ozan Marsh. I don't remember the exact piece but I think it was Rachmaninoff. Ozan liked the reinforcement, I think, to F1 by playing the octave.
>
> Bob Anderson, RPT
> Tucson, AZ
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>
> Original Message:
> Sent: 4/30/2023 4:36:00 PM
> From: Tim Foster
> Subject: G0 pre-1883
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> This may be a bit of an odd question in a technical forum, but I couldn't think of a better place.
>
> The European composer Agnes Tyrrell (1846-1883), wrote a number of piano compositions in her short life. ??As I understand it, one of her piano compositions contains the note G0. My question is this: What, if any, pianos at this time had additional bass notes below A0? Did B??sendorfer at this point?
>
> ??Thanks!
>
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Original Message:
Sent: 5/1/2023 8:39:00 PM
From: Tim Foster
Subject: RE: G0 pre-1883
Excellent, thank you! Do you have a list of names off the top of your head with extra notes?
------------------------------
Tim Foster
New Oxford PA
(470) 231-6074
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Original Message:
Sent: 05-01-2023 20:27
From: William Shull
Subject: G0 pre-1883
Pianos with more than an 88-note compass were built in the later 19th century.
Period Piano Collection includes an Erard 8'6" 90 note piano which begins at G 0. This model goes back in production at least to the 1870s. Other European builders built pianos with compasses larger than 88 notes too.
Bill
Bill Shull, Period Piano Collection
www.periodpiano.org
Original Message:
Sent: 5/1/2023 4:15:00 PM
From: Robert Anderson
Subject: RE: G0 pre-1883
That's it, Peter.
Bob Anderson, RPT
Tucson, AZ
Original Message:
Sent: 5/1/2023 2:43:00 PM
From: Peter Grey
Subject: RE: G0 pre-1883
Bob,
If I'm reading this right you took A0 and brought down to an octave below F1. Is this correct?
Peter Grey Piano Doctor
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Peter Grey
Stratham NH
(603) 686-2395
pianodoctor57@gmail.com
Original Message:
Sent: 05-01-2023 10:27
From: Robert Anderson
Subject: G0 pre-1883
Along this line, I tuned A0 to F0 years ago for Tucson pianist Ozan Marsh. I don't remember the exact piece but I think it was Rachmaninoff. Ozan liked the reinforcement, I think, to F1 by playing the octave.
Bob Anderson, RPT
Tucson, AZ
Original Message:
Sent: 4/30/2023 4:36:00 PM
From: Tim Foster
Subject: G0 pre-1883
Hi all,
This may be a bit of an odd question in a technical forum, but I couldn't think of a better place.
The European composer Agnes Tyrrell (1846-1883), wrote a number of piano compositions in her short life. As I understand it, one of her piano compositions contains the note G0. My question is this: What, if any, pianos at this time had additional bass notes below A0? Did Bösendorfer at this point?
Thanks!
------------------------------
Tim Foster
New Oxford PA
(470) 231-6074
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</pianodoctor57@gmail.com>