Pianotech

  • 1.  Hickman action

    Posted 02-01-2023 16:16
    Does having a Hickman action add any value to a piano? A church is asking and this is the piano from which the action model was taken(A0). It's in a Knabe grand #107703.​

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    James Baker RPT
    Matthews NC
    (704) 517-6674
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  • 2.  RE: Hickman action

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 02-01-2023 17:10
    I can't answer your question, but I'm assuming you read the articles in the past three journals about this action? Very fascinating.

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    Tim Foster
    New Oxford PA
    (470) 231-6074
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  • 3.  RE: Hickman action

    Posted 02-01-2023 21:35
    Yes, I saw those, thank you. This Knabe also has a slider control on the left cheek block to change the stiffness of the action. Every key has a flat steel spring underneath that a rod had to slide into.






  • 4.  RE: Hickman action

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 02-02-2023 11:14
    James,

    If you get a chance to get some photos of the piano, the action (including a few good plan view side shots), and whatever you can get of the variable touch mechanism, we'd love to see it.  It's of historical interest for sure.  

    Regards,

    Bill

    Bill Shull, RPT, M.Mus.
    www.shullpiano.com
    www.periodpiano.org
    909 796-4226

    Sent from my iPhone





  • 5.  RE: Hickman action

    Posted 02-03-2023 02:20
    If I find the photos I took when I put hammers on, I'll post them. If not, I'll try to get new ones.





  • 6.  RE: Hickman action

    Posted 02-04-2023 19:13

    To the question of value: I would say that sadly, there is no monetary value in these rare and beautiful examples of engineering and innovation in pianos.  There s probably not even any "collectables" value. There are piano collectors, but they are mostly looking for 150+ year old premium brands in art cases.

    I am doing some research with the goal of posting a website about Ed. Westermayer, a German piano innovator from who 1860 - 1890 developed and patented a few really interesting - and well functioning - piano actions. 
    https://westermayer-pianos.com/
    In principle not unlike what Hickman was doing - inventing a better mouse trap. A fair number of those pianos are out there (I own one from 1872) and their value can probably be measured in dozens of dollars, maybe hundreds.  Certainly not thousands of dollars. I guess you have to be a real geek to get your jollies from bizarre technical inventions in pianos. Thank goodness we are not entirely alone in that, but there is not enough general interest to create a desire or a market which would drive up a price for these unique pieces. And so, there are probably some amazing instruments going to the dump as we speak.



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    Jurgen Goering
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  • 7.  RE: Hickman action

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 02-06-2023 08:03
    Hi, Jurgen.

    Thanks for the link. Very interesting. PTG Foundation has a pretty comprehensive action model collection but no Hickman.

    James Baker, it would be great if you could provide photos and dimensions for duplicating it. Actual parts would be even better
    if that is possible. 



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    Dave Conte, RPT

    Resident Technician
    The University of Tennessee
    Knoxville TN
    (817) 307-5656
    Owner: Rocky Top Piano
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  • 8.  RE: Hickman action

    Posted 02-06-2023 12:16
    I cannot find the photos. It was the Summer of '03. I'll try to get new photos. There is an action model taken from this piano. I can't remember the name, but I  think Danny from Texas came to examine it and the church gave him A0 parts minus hammer and key. He made replacement parts for the church. 





  • 9.  RE: Hickman action

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 02-06-2023 17:02

    John is working on finding photos and possibly the action model that he rebuilt some years ago.

    He'll let you know what he finds. Ruth

     






  • 10.  RE: Hickman action

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 02-06-2023 18:34
    "Imperial 1955" has a number of YouTube videos, describing and showing the action. Here's one of the video link below.

    https://youtu.be/4fgtFr5pTgk

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    Tim Foster
    New Oxford PA
    (470) 231-6074
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