Pianotech

  • 1.  Interesting employment issue

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-15-2022 01:11
    At the recent NAMM show I talked with a German technician.  He was surprised that most US techs were independant, even store techs.

    Apparently in many places in Europe most technicians are employed by dealers with scheduling and billing going through the store.

    This system is used by some dealers back east and it is being "explored" here in California.

    Most of the hired techs might be younger tuners without clientele, but then the store will be graced with lots of green techs.  Older techs might not be interested in the new deal.

    Sort of similar to a university hiring a young guy who has no opportunity to develop an outside clintele and possibly no understanding of the costs of living in the new location.

    Any opinions?

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    Blaine Hebert RPT
    Duarte CA
    (626) 795-5170
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  • 2.  RE: Interesting employment issue

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-15-2022 07:24
    Hi Blaine:
    I worked for a store for a couple decades, beginning in 1988.  The store advertised an apprenticeship program to become a piano technician, and myself and a couple other guys were the new greenhorns.  Sales were brisk, and after a year or so our mentor and store head tech got canned.  Sink or swim!  Soon after I joined the Guild, and became an RPT, in the early '90's.  Since then, sales slowly dropped off, and by attrition I became the only store tech.  Store ownership went through 3 changes and finally bit the dust about 10 years ago.  By that time, sales were so low that they no longer had enough piano sales to keep me busy, so they encouraged me to pursue outside customers.  All service requests were sent to me, and I began building my client list in earnest.  All clients were in my custody, and not belonging to the store.  But all the income went to the store, which became my salary.  I was a "profit center" for the store.  There's more to it, but the point is, the clients were mine.  After about 3 years of this ownership, the store went bk and I stepped off the treadmill to continue my independent business with my clientelle.  Shortly after I got Gazelle, and my business has taken off nicely. 
    The stores in my area have struggled for years with the slow economy, and full-time tech employees are rare.  One of three stores in this area (San Diego) had a full time tech for years, and then opened a satellite store along with another full time tech.  They sold a lot of pianos, and kept the techs full-time.  But none of the techs could keep their own customer list.  That belonged to the store.  So, when they left, there was nothing to start their own businesses.  I don't know if they signed an agreement not to contact old clients after they left.
    As I was lucky enough to have a full time job as an apprentice, I had the time to make all the mistakes along the way, without worrying about whether I was making any money.  OJT, on the job training.  For a new tech, it is an ideal situation.  But now, sales are so slow that stores aren't hiring full time techs anymore.  For a new person, finding a store to work for is a good way to begin.  Plenty of floor work, and hopefully referrals from the store, calling the store for tunings, is probably the best way to pursue a career.  But, the downside is if the store keeps the client list then when you leave you have nothing to show for all the work you did for them.  I know three or four techs that worked for this one store and lived to regret it.
    My advice is, at least here in the US, is to always keep yourself independent.  Depending upon a store, or stores, for employment is not a good idea unless you can keep the clients. Full time employment at a store, with 401K's, health benefits, and such, is rare if at all.  If you do find a good situation at a store, go for it.  But always have a plan B, which should be your own business and your own customer list.
    In Europe, they have a much different system than here.  You can't just hang a shingle and call yourself a Piano Technician.  You have to have years of apprenticeship and work experience.  Not surprisingly, we have lots of "tooners" who don't know what they're doing, and charging as much or more than seasoned techs with decades of experience.  So their hiring situation is much different.  Maybe some techs on here can shed more light on the situation over there.

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    Paul McCloud, RPT
    Accutone Piano Service
    www.AccutonePianoService.com
    pavadasa@gmail.com
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  • 3.  RE: Interesting employment issue

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-16-2022 10:09

    Blaine,
    Sorry I missed you at the NAMM show. 

    I once had the opportunity to work as a photographer for a big studio. They asked me to sign a non-compete agreement in case I left-I walked.

    Maybe independence, with the risks and rewards that go with it, is part of American DNA? Having met many fellow piano technicians, I can say most are cut from the same independent cloth.

    As Paul says, there's a certain security in being a freelancer. As a musician, I learned the lesson of keeping multiple options open: orchestra cutbacks? I had students and multiple gigs. I've seen many full-time orchestras either go under or strike, even ones that were on supposedly good financial footing. 

    While I do get tunings from a local dealer, I can't imagine locking myself in to ANY one income source.



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    Scott Cole, RPT
    rvpianotuner.com
    Talent, OR
    (541-601-9033
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  • 4.  RE: Interesting employment issue

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-16-2022 10:24
    A little off subject, but if I was asked to sign a non-compete clause to work for a company, I would also want a guaranteed contract for a certain length of time, including a 2 or 3 months' notice that my contract will not be renewed. 





  • 5.  RE: Interesting employment issue

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-16-2022 11:56
    The real question brings up the difference between employment and independent operations in the US versus what they do in the "Old Country".  The US is still sort of like the "wild west" where anyone can have the freedom to do whatever they want, including being a piano technician.  But over there, the government is more restrictive.  To protect people from unscrupulous hacks, their system requires one to be properly trained before one can claim to be a piano technician, or whatever.  I'm for less restrictions myself, but I can see why they have that system.

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    Paul McCloud, RPT
    Accutone Piano Service
    www.AccutonePianoService.com
    pavadasa@gmail.com
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  • 6.  RE: Interesting employment issue

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-16-2022 11:55

    What Paul describes is what I would expect from a salaried position. They're an employee of the store, and as such they get a set pay each month, regardless of how many pianos they tune. In my opinion, it seems the same as a CAUT position at some major universities and music schools. Set hours, set pay, the employer handles the running-a-business part of the business. 

    With that said, I think why most of us here are independent comes down to several reasons (at least for me). One, there is a pride in being able to look back and say, I built that, as opposed to saying, my company built that. And as many can testify, one's own business is also something that can be handled down through the generations. 

    Secondly, most of us here can make significantly more doing private work than what most stores are willing to pay, with the opportunity to sell additional work. And, the stores save more by hiring freelancers as opposed to full time employees, even if they have enough work to support that. Think about workman's comp, overtime, benefits, and tax withholding / payroll that a store doesn't have to pay if they freelance their tuners.

    I understand that in Europe the political atmosphere has been very different for decades now, and certain requirements are placed on the self employed that aren't placed on us here (yet). If someone is starting from nothing, it probably makes sense for them to seek employment there.

    Just my thoughts. I should add, just because most of us are self employed here doesn't mean it's the only path. Some people are better cut for working for others than they are for running a business. And that's ok! That's the beauty of our trade - it can be done in a lot of different ways. 



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    Benjamin Sanchez, RPT
    Piano Technician / Artisan
    (256) 947-9999
    www.professional-piano-services.com
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