Thanks, Kathy.
Original Message:
Sent: 11-05-2023 20:25
From: Kathy Smith
Subject: lid hinge pins stuck
Alan,
I have a lid removal kit always ready to go. It's in a small contractor's bag with my business card in a window slot. It has a small needle-nose pliers with the teeth ground smoother, buckskin to use to grab brass pins to prevent gouging, a small hammer to tap against the pliers (or vice grips) as Fred mentioned. It has a piece of cardboard and painters tape to put against the rim in case you're afraid of making gouges, and spare hinge pins. It also has a 1/8" punch to push out ball-end or stubborn pins, and it's always worked well.
So handy, that most of my venues have requested that I make and sell kits to them.
Kathy
Original Message:
Sent: 11/5/2023 8:17:00 PM
From: Alan Eder
Subject: RE: lid hinge pins stuck
Fred,
Ditto my response to Wim about matriculating to a hammer.
If a hammer doesn't work, I will try a nail set to get it moving. If at that point it still can't be pulled out, perhaps grind the pointy end of the nail set down so it can reach further into the hinge.
Alan
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Alan Eder, RPT
Herb Alpert School of Music
California Institute of the Arts
Valencia, CA
661.904.6483
Original Message:
Sent: 11-05-2023 19:24
From: Fred Sturm
Subject: lid hinge pins stuck
I strike the pliers with a metal hammer. It hasn't failed to remove a hinge pin yet.
A drift (punch) from the other end is an alternative, but it's hard to keep it centered on the end of the pin, and it will only drive the pin a short distance before the geometry (angle versus straight) intervenes. A nail set has a dimple on the end that could help with that, and it might at least get the pin moving.
Regards,
http://fredsturm.net
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Original Message:
Sent: 11/5/2023 6:30:00 PM
From: Alan Eder
Subject: lid hinge pins stuck
Lists,
We have a Yamaha C7 from which we are currently unable to remove any of the lid hinge pins. We have had the lid off this piano several times over many years. Can't get any of the three pins to budge, even with someone raising and lowering the lid while pliers are on the hinge pin, being struck by a rubber mallet.
As you might imagine, we are curious about what may have caused this condition. And knowing the cause may steer us in the right direction about how to remedy it.
But regardless of whether or not we figure out the cause, we have to fix it. What is the best brass to brass lubricant?
Also, we have considered trying to drive the pins out with a drift, made of either brass or something softer. Anyone with experience doing this care to weigh in?
Thanks,
Alan
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Alan Eder, RPT
Herb Alpert School of Music
California Institute of the Arts
Valencia, CA
661.904.6483
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