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I have a church customer wanting a grand piano.  I know a piano dealer selling a new 4'11" K&C (Samick) for $6885 right now and says that he will have a used Yamaha G1 (5'3") in a month for $6500.  If the Yamaha is in reasonably good condition,  I am thinking that the older Yamaha is still the  better piano.  Have you all had any experience with new pianos made by Samick and if so, what do you think of them?

Thanks!

I have a church customer wanting a grand piano.  I know a piano dealer selling a new 4'11" K&C (Samick) for $6885 right now and says that he will have a used Yamaha G1 (5'3") in a month for $6500.  If the Yamaha is in reasonably good condition,  I am thinking that the older Yamaha is still the  better piano.  Have you all had any experience with new pianos made by Samick and if so, what do you think of them?

Thanks!

I have a church customer wanting a grand piano.  I know a piano dealer selling a new 4'11" K&C (Samick) for $6885 right now and says that he will have a used Yamaha G1 (5'3") in a month for $6500.  If the Yamaha is in reasonably good condition,  I am thinking that the older Yamaha is still the  better piano.  Have you all had any experience with new pianos made by Samick and if so, what do you think of them?

Thanks!

Recently I've been dealing with two Kohler & Campbell grands with sticky damper flanges, so right now they're on my naughty list 😠 I'd pretty much always go with a Yamaha, even if it's used. 

I have a church customer wanting a grand piano.  I know a piano dealer selling a new 4'11" K&C (Samick) for $6885 right now and says that he will have a used Yamaha G1 (5'3") in a month for $6500.  If the Yamaha is in reasonably good condition,  I am thinking that the older Yamaha is still the  better piano.  Have you all had any experience with new pianos made by Samick and if so, what do you think of them?

Thanks!

What are the church acoustics like ? High ceilings ? windows and carpet ? They need to rethink them budget and go with something bigger. I would avoid the Samick and go with the Yamaha but also keep shopping for something bigger - consider Yamaha and Kawai models. Start a piano fund drive members can buy a key for $10 each and you will have $880 more in the kitty. I am dealing with a Samick now in a church which has shredded escaine/buckskin on the knuckles and sluggish action centers.... 

Recently I've been dealing with two Kohler & Campbell grands with sticky damper flanges, so right now they're on my naughty list 😠 I'd pretty much always go with a Yamaha, even if it's used. 

I have a church customer wanting a grand piano.  I know a piano dealer selling a new 4'11" K&C (Samick) for $6885 right now and says that he will have a used Yamaha G1 (5'3") in a month for $6500.  If the Yamaha is in reasonably good condition,  I am thinking that the older Yamaha is still the  better piano.  Have you all had any experience with new pianos made by Samick and if so, what do you think of them?

Thanks!

I have a church customer wanting a grand piano.  I know a piano dealer selling a new 4'11" K&C (Samick) for $6885 right now and says that he will have a used Yamaha G1 (5'3") in a month for $6500.  If the Yamaha is in reasonably good condition,  I am thinking that the older Yamaha is still the  better piano.  Have you all had any experience with new pianos made by Samick and if so, what do you think of them?

Thanks!

Assuming the G1 is in good condition, I would opt for that. I've worked on quite a few of the new K&C's, and am not impressed with them. Both the 4'7" and the 4'11" have consistent problems staying in tune, even in an otherwise stable environment, among other things, such as a rather poor tone. Needless to say I'm not a fan. 

As Wim said, both those pianos are probably going to be too short for the auditorium. I would encourage the church to broaden their search to other dealerships. If they're willing to make the drive they might find a better piano that would fit the budget. I'll send you an email of some places they could check. 

I have a church customer wanting a grand piano.  I know a piano dealer selling a new 4'11" K&C (Samick) for $6885 right now and says that he will have a used Yamaha G1 (5'3") in a month for $6500.  If the Yamaha is in reasonably good condition,  I am thinking that the older Yamaha is still the  better piano.  Have you all had any experience with new pianos made by Samick and if so, what do you think of them?

Thanks!

Thanks for the suggestions.  I remembered that I worked on a newer Knabe last week and I believe that is also a Samick.brand.  It had a bunch of sticky jacks.  I CLP'd the heck out of them, but know that it is just temporary and I will probably have to do that every time I go tune.

Assuming the G1 is in good condition, I would opt for that. I've worked on quite a few of the new K&C's, and am not impressed with them. Both the 4'7" and the 4'11" have consistent problems staying in tune, even in an otherwise stable environment, among other things, such as a rather poor tone. Needless to say I'm not a fan. 

As Wim said, both those pianos are probably going to be too short for the auditorium. I would encourage the church to broaden their search to other dealerships. If they're willing to make the drive they might find a better piano that would fit the budget. I'll send you an email of some places they could check. 

I have a church customer wanting a grand piano.  I know a piano dealer selling a new 4'11" K&C (Samick) for $6885 right now and says that he will have a used Yamaha G1 (5'3") in a month for $6500.  If the Yamaha is in reasonably good condition,  I am thinking that the older Yamaha is still the  better piano.  Have you all had any experience with new pianos made by Samick and if so, what do you think of them?

Thanks!

The G1's were made between '84 and '94. I would wait to hear it, some of the older ones are just not nice sounding instruments. This would be compounded by an extra live room. 

Thanks for the suggestions.  I remembered that I worked on a newer Knabe last week and I believe that is also a Samick.brand.  It had a bunch of sticky jacks.  I CLP'd the heck out of them, but know that it is just temporary and I will probably have to do that every time I go tune.

Assuming the G1 is in good condition, I would opt for that. I've worked on quite a few of the new K&C's, and am not impressed with them. Both the 4'7" and the 4'11" have consistent problems staying in tune, even in an otherwise stable environment, among other things, such as a rather poor tone. Needless to say I'm not a fan. 

As Wim said, both those pianos are probably going to be too short for the auditorium. I would encourage the church to broaden their search to other dealerships. If they're willing to make the drive they might find a better piano that would fit the budget. I'll send you an email of some places they could check. 

I have a church customer wanting a grand piano.  I know a piano dealer selling a new 4'11" K&C (Samick) for $6885 right now and says that he will have a used Yamaha G1 (5'3") in a month for $6500.  If the Yamaha is in reasonably good condition,  I am thinking that the older Yamaha is still the  better piano.  Have you all had any experience with new pianos made by Samick and if so, what do you think of them?

Thanks!

Patrick, 

I'm a big fan of Yamaha, however, with Yamaha I think you have to judge which model and how old.
To me, a 30 year old G1 is no prize, a rebuilder friend once told me he's never seen a G series that didn't have a flat board.
(Also check to see if it's a grey market piano, they tend to be weaker pianos.)

I do agree with the comments about Samicks and it's other brands, I have a short Samick product
which is owned by a piano teacher, of course, and it's a long drive and it's nothing but trouble. 

Try to hold out for a better used piano and even, dare I say it, more money!

Michael

The G1's were made between '84 and '94. I would wait to hear it, some of the older ones are just not nice sounding instruments. This would be compounded by an extra live room. 

Thanks for the suggestions.  I remembered that I worked on a newer Knabe last week and I believe that is also a Samick.brand.  It had a bunch of sticky jacks.  I CLP'd the heck out of them, but know that it is just temporary and I will probably have to do that every time I go tune.

Assuming the G1 is in good condition, I would opt for that. I've worked on quite a few of the new K&C's, and am not impressed with them. Both the 4'7" and the 4'11" have consistent problems staying in tune, even in an otherwise stable environment, among other things, such as a rather poor tone. Needless to say I'm not a fan. 

As Wim said, both those pianos are probably going to be too short for the auditorium. I would encourage the church to broaden their search to other dealerships. If they're willing to make the drive they might find a better piano that would fit the budget. I'll send you an email of some places they could check. 

I have a church customer wanting a grand piano.  I know a piano dealer selling a new 4'11" K&C (Samick) for $6885 right now and says that he will have a used Yamaha G1 (5'3") in a month for $6500.  If the Yamaha is in reasonably good condition,  I am thinking that the older Yamaha is still the  better piano.  Have you all had any experience with new pianos made by Samick and if so, what do you think of them?

Thanks!

I have a church customer wanting a grand piano.  I know a piano dealer selling a new 4'11" K&C (Samick) for $6885 right now and says that he will have a used Yamaha G1 (5'3") in a month for $6500.  If the Yamaha is in reasonably good condition,  I am thinking that the older Yamaha is still the  better piano.  Have you all had any experience with new pianos made by Samick and if so, what do you think of them?

Thanks!

I have a church customer wanting a grand piano.  I know a piano dealer selling a new 4'11" K&C (Samick) for $6885 right now and says that he will have a used Yamaha G1 (5'3") in a month for $6500.  If the Yamaha is in reasonably good condition,  I am thinking that the older Yamaha is still the  better piano.  Have you all had any experience with new pianos made by Samick and if so, what do you think of them?

Thanks!

Thank you for your ideas.  The choir director told me she does not want a piano that is very loud, she just needs something other than the studio console they now have.  She needs something she can see over when she is playing/directing the choir.  They would mic the piano, so it is possible they could get by with a 5'3".  I am going to try to find a Yamaha or a Kawai and fingers crossed that I can find something under 9K - they are telling me 8K is their top, but I think I could push for 9.  :-)

I have a church customer wanting a grand piano.  I know a piano dealer selling a new 4'11" K&C (Samick) for $6885 right now and says that he will have a used Yamaha G1 (5'3") in a month for $6500.  If the Yamaha is in reasonably good condition,  I am thinking that the older Yamaha is still the  better piano.  Have you all had any experience with new pianos made by Samick and if so, what do you think of them?

Thanks!

Thank you for your ideas.  The choir director told me she does not want a piano that is very loud, she just needs something other than the studio console they now have.  She needs something she can see over when she is playing/directing the choir.  They would mic the piano, so it is possible they could get by with a 5'3".  I am going to try to find a Yamaha or a Kawai and fingers crossed that I can find something under 9K - they are telling me 8K is their top, but I think I could push for 9.  :-)

I have a church customer wanting a grand piano.  I know a piano dealer selling a new 4'11" K&C (Samick) for $6885 right now and says that he will have a used Yamaha G1 (5'3") in a month for $6500.  If the Yamaha is in reasonably good condition,  I am thinking that the older Yamaha is still the  better piano.  Have you all had any experience with new pianos made by Samick and if so, what do you think of them?

Thanks!

I think Loren and Jessica have "said it all" about the consequences of installing a short piano in this situation. Ideally educate her/them with information from "Piano Buyer", and visits to some higher end dealers. 

Thank you for your ideas.  The choir director told me she does not want a piano that is very loud, she just needs something other than the studio console they now have.  She needs something she can see over when she is playing/directing the choir.  They would mic the piano, so it is possible they could get by with a 5'3".  I am going to try to find a Yamaha or a Kawai and fingers crossed that I can find something under 9K - they are telling me 8K is their top, but I think I could push for 9.  :-)

I have a church customer wanting a grand piano.  I know a piano dealer selling a new 4'11" K&C (Samick) for $6885 right now and says that he will have a used Yamaha G1 (5'3") in a month for $6500.  If the Yamaha is in reasonably good condition,  I am thinking that the older Yamaha is still the  better piano.  Have you all had any experience with new pianos made by Samick and if so, what do you think of them?

Thanks!