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I have two newer Boston pianos, a grand and an upright that have a very prominent ring in just 2 notes in each piano. In the grand is in the bass wrapped strings and in the upright is is G#3 and A3. I have tried leveling the strings, mating the hammers, voicing the hammers and checking for loose braiding in the waste ends. Nothing has had any effect on the overtone ring.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I should check 

I have two newer Boston pianos, a grand and an upright that have a very prominent ring in just 2 notes in each piano. In the grand is in the bass wrapped strings and in the upright is is G#3 and A3. I have tried leveling the strings, mating the hammers, voicing the hammers and checking for loose braiding in the waste ends. Nothing has had any effect on the overtone ring.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I should check 

I have two newer Boston pianos, a grand and an upright that have a very prominent ring in just 2 notes in each piano. In the grand is in the bass wrapped strings and in the upright is is G#3 and A3. I have tried leveling the strings, mating the hammers, voicing the hammers and checking for loose braiding in the waste ends. Nothing has had any effect on the overtone ring.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I should check 

Is it a metallic like ring or is it and after sound as an undampped string ? If it is a gong like sound you may need to add some more mass to a plate strut by using some strong square magnet. Damper leak may require some delicate bending of the damper heads to get equal felt fit especially if the damper felts are two piece. Make sure there is enough lost motion in the damper pedal . On the upright check for damper follow through by pressing on the strings to see if dampers move forward. You may need to bend the damper wire toward the strings at the base of the damper head. On the grand check the center pinning friction on the damper flanges, remove and polish, lubricate the damper guide wires for the two notes but keep in mind other notes could be leaking. Use a mirror to observe how the rear damper felt is sitting on the strings.   By any chance does the Boston Grand have a player system ? If so regulating the dampers is challenging

I have two newer Boston pianos, a grand and an upright that have a very prominent ring in just 2 notes in each piano. In the grand is in the bass wrapped strings and in the upright is is G#3 and A3. I have tried leveling the strings, mating the hammers, voicing the hammers and checking for loose braiding in the waste ends. Nothing has had any effect on the overtone ring.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I should check 

It's always important to isolate exactly where it's coming from, otherwise you're chasing your tail. If you play and release the note, ringing occurs...if you put your finger on the unison and it immediately stops younknow its a damping issue. If it continues, its somewhere else. If its in the unison, which string(s) are generating it? Eliminate things till you isolate the specific problem. Then you can address it. (Treat the problem not the symptom). 

Peter Grey Piano Doctor 

Is it a metallic like ring or is it and after sound as an undampped string ? If it is a gong like sound you may need to add some more mass to a plate strut by using some strong square magnet. Damper leak may require some delicate bending of the damper heads to get equal felt fit especially if the damper felts are two piece. Make sure there is enough lost motion in the damper pedal . On the upright check for damper follow through by pressing on the strings to see if dampers move forward. You may need to bend the damper wire toward the strings at the base of the damper head. On the grand check the center pinning friction on the damper flanges, remove and polish, lubricate the damper guide wires for the two notes but keep in mind other notes could be leaking. Use a mirror to observe how the rear damper felt is sitting on the strings.   By any chance does the Boston Grand have a player system ? If so regulating the dampers is challenging

I have two newer Boston pianos, a grand and an upright that have a very prominent ring in just 2 notes in each piano. In the grand is in the bass wrapped strings and in the upright is is G#3 and A3. I have tried leveling the strings, mating the hammers, voicing the hammers and checking for loose braiding in the waste ends. Nothing has had any effect on the overtone ring.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I should check 

It's always important to isolate exactly where it's coming from, otherwise you're chasing your tail. If you play and release the note, ringing occurs...if you put your finger on the unison and it immediately stops younknow its a damping issue. If it continues, its somewhere else. If its in the unison, which string(s) are generating it? Eliminate things till you isolate the specific problem. Then you can address it. (Treat the problem not the symptom). 

Peter Grey Piano Doctor 

Is it a metallic like ring or is it and after sound as an undampped string ? If it is a gong like sound you may need to add some more mass to a plate strut by using some strong square magnet. Damper leak may require some delicate bending of the damper heads to get equal felt fit especially if the damper felts are two piece. Make sure there is enough lost motion in the damper pedal . On the upright check for damper follow through by pressing on the strings to see if dampers move forward. You may need to bend the damper wire toward the strings at the base of the damper head. On the grand check the center pinning friction on the damper flanges, remove and polish, lubricate the damper guide wires for the two notes but keep in mind other notes could be leaking. Use a mirror to observe how the rear damper felt is sitting on the strings.   By any chance does the Boston Grand have a player system ? If so regulating the dampers is challenging

I have two newer Boston pianos, a grand and an upright that have a very prominent ring in just 2 notes in each piano. In the grand is in the bass wrapped strings and in the upright is is G#3 and A3. I have tried leveling the strings, mating the hammers, voicing the hammers and checking for loose braiding in the waste ends. Nothing has had any effect on the overtone ring.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I should check 

Rex,

A fast way to isolate the problem is to use masking tape, put the tape across all the strings then remove till you locate the problem

It sounds a little like what Steinway had a few years ago, the damper felt was too soft.

John

It's always important to isolate exactly where it's coming from, otherwise you're chasing your tail. If you play and release the note, ringing occurs...if you put your finger on the unison and it immediately stops younknow its a damping issue. If it continues, its somewhere else. If its in the unison, which string(s) are generating it? Eliminate things till you isolate the specific problem. Then you can address it. (Treat the problem not the symptom). 

Peter Grey Piano Doctor 

Is it a metallic like ring or is it and after sound as an undampped string ? If it is a gong like sound you may need to add some more mass to a plate strut by using some strong square magnet. Damper leak may require some delicate bending of the damper heads to get equal felt fit especially if the damper felts are two piece. Make sure there is enough lost motion in the damper pedal . On the upright check for damper follow through by pressing on the strings to see if dampers move forward. You may need to bend the damper wire toward the strings at the base of the damper head. On the grand check the center pinning friction on the damper flanges, remove and polish, lubricate the damper guide wires for the two notes but keep in mind other notes could be leaking. Use a mirror to observe how the rear damper felt is sitting on the strings.   By any chance does the Boston Grand have a player system ? If so regulating the dampers is challenging

I have two newer Boston pianos, a grand and an upright that have a very prominent ring in just 2 notes in each piano. In the grand is in the bass wrapped strings and in the upright is is G#3 and A3. I have tried leveling the strings, mating the hammers, voicing the hammers and checking for loose braiding in the waste ends. Nothing has had any effect on the overtone ring.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I should check 

Rex,

A fast way to isolate the problem is to use masking tape, put the tape across all the strings then remove till you locate the problem

It sounds a little like what Steinway had a few years ago, the damper felt was too soft.

John

It's always important to isolate exactly where it's coming from, otherwise you're chasing your tail. If you play and release the note, ringing occurs...if you put your finger on the unison and it immediately stops younknow its a damping issue. If it continues, its somewhere else. If its in the unison, which string(s) are generating it? Eliminate things till you isolate the specific problem. Then you can address it. (Treat the problem not the symptom). 

Peter Grey Piano Doctor 

Is it a metallic like ring or is it and after sound as an undampped string ? If it is a gong like sound you may need to add some more mass to a plate strut by using some strong square magnet. Damper leak may require some delicate bending of the damper heads to get equal felt fit especially if the damper felts are two piece. Make sure there is enough lost motion in the damper pedal . On the upright check for damper follow through by pressing on the strings to see if dampers move forward. You may need to bend the damper wire toward the strings at the base of the damper head. On the grand check the center pinning friction on the damper flanges, remove and polish, lubricate the damper guide wires for the two notes but keep in mind other notes could be leaking. Use a mirror to observe how the rear damper felt is sitting on the strings.   By any chance does the Boston Grand have a player system ? If so regulating the dampers is challenging

I have two newer Boston pianos, a grand and an upright that have a very prominent ring in just 2 notes in each piano. In the grand is in the bass wrapped strings and in the upright is is G#3 and A3. I have tried leveling the strings, mating the hammers, voicing the hammers and checking for loose braiding in the waste ends. Nothing has had any effect on the overtone ring.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I should check 

Rex,

A fast way to isolate the problem is to use masking tape, put the tape across all the strings then remove till you locate the problem

It sounds a little like what Steinway had a few years ago, the damper felt was too soft.

John

It's always important to isolate exactly where it's coming from, otherwise you're chasing your tail. If you play and release the note, ringing occurs...if you put your finger on the unison and it immediately stops younknow its a damping issue. If it continues, its somewhere else. If its in the unison, which string(s) are generating it? Eliminate things till you isolate the specific problem. Then you can address it. (Treat the problem not the symptom). 

Peter Grey Piano Doctor 

Is it a metallic like ring or is it and after sound as an undampped string ? If it is a gong like sound you may need to add some more mass to a plate strut by using some strong square magnet. Damper leak may require some delicate bending of the damper heads to get equal felt fit especially if the damper felts are two piece. Make sure there is enough lost motion in the damper pedal . On the upright check for damper follow through by pressing on the strings to see if dampers move forward. You may need to bend the damper wire toward the strings at the base of the damper head. On the grand check the center pinning friction on the damper flanges, remove and polish, lubricate the damper guide wires for the two notes but keep in mind other notes could be leaking. Use a mirror to observe how the rear damper felt is sitting on the strings.   By any chance does the Boston Grand have a player system ? If so regulating the dampers is challenging

I have two newer Boston pianos, a grand and an upright that have a very prominent ring in just 2 notes in each piano. In the grand is in the bass wrapped strings and in the upright is is G#3 and A3. I have tried leveling the strings, mating the hammers, voicing the hammers and checking for loose braiding in the waste ends. Nothing has had any effect on the overtone ring.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I should check 

Rex,

A fast way to isolate the problem is to use masking tape, put the tape across all the strings then remove till you locate the problem

It sounds a little like what Steinway had a few years ago, the damper felt was too soft.

John

It's always important to isolate exactly where it's coming from, otherwise you're chasing your tail. If you play and release the note, ringing occurs...if you put your finger on the unison and it immediately stops younknow its a damping issue. If it continues, its somewhere else. If its in the unison, which string(s) are generating it? Eliminate things till you isolate the specific problem. Then you can address it. (Treat the problem not the symptom). 

Peter Grey Piano Doctor 

Is it a metallic like ring or is it and after sound as an undampped string ? If it is a gong like sound you may need to add some more mass to a plate strut by using some strong square magnet. Damper leak may require some delicate bending of the damper heads to get equal felt fit especially if the damper felts are two piece. Make sure there is enough lost motion in the damper pedal . On the upright check for damper follow through by pressing on the strings to see if dampers move forward. You may need to bend the damper wire toward the strings at the base of the damper head. On the grand check the center pinning friction on the damper flanges, remove and polish, lubricate the damper guide wires for the two notes but keep in mind other notes could be leaking. Use a mirror to observe how the rear damper felt is sitting on the strings.   By any chance does the Boston Grand have a player system ? If so regulating the dampers is challenging

I have two newer Boston pianos, a grand and an upright that have a very prominent ring in just 2 notes in each piano. In the grand is in the bass wrapped strings and in the upright is is G#3 and A3. I have tried leveling the strings, mating the hammers, voicing the hammers and checking for loose braiding in the waste ends. Nothing has had any effect on the overtone ring.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I should check 

Rex,

A fast way to isolate the problem is to use masking tape, put the tape across all the strings then remove till you locate the problem

It sounds a little like what Steinway had a few years ago, the damper felt was too soft.

John

It's always important to isolate exactly where it's coming from, otherwise you're chasing your tail. If you play and release the note, ringing occurs...if you put your finger on the unison and it immediately stops younknow its a damping issue. If it continues, its somewhere else. If its in the unison, which string(s) are generating it? Eliminate things till you isolate the specific problem. Then you can address it. (Treat the problem not the symptom). 

Peter Grey Piano Doctor 

Is it a metallic like ring or is it and after sound as an undampped string ? If it is a gong like sound you may need to add some more mass to a plate strut by using some strong square magnet. Damper leak may require some delicate bending of the damper heads to get equal felt fit especially if the damper felts are two piece. Make sure there is enough lost motion in the damper pedal . On the upright check for damper follow through by pressing on the strings to see if dampers move forward. You may need to bend the damper wire toward the strings at the base of the damper head. On the grand check the center pinning friction on the damper flanges, remove and polish, lubricate the damper guide wires for the two notes but keep in mind other notes could be leaking. Use a mirror to observe how the rear damper felt is sitting on the strings.   By any chance does the Boston Grand have a player system ? If so regulating the dampers is challenging

I have two newer Boston pianos, a grand and an upright that have a very prominent ring in just 2 notes in each piano. In the grand is in the bass wrapped strings and in the upright is is G#3 and A3. I have tried leveling the strings, mating the hammers, voicing the hammers and checking for loose braiding in the waste ends. Nothing has had any effect on the overtone ring.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I should check 

Regarding magnets go to Harbor Freight Tool and buy two of their magnetic tool bars. You can do a fast check with a full length bar laying it on of the strut to see if it has an effect. You can then cut various lengths from the other tool bar and experiment with them. There are no specific gram weights - you need to experiment. 

Rex,

A fast way to isolate the problem is to use masking tape, put the tape across all the strings then remove till you locate the problem

It sounds a little like what Steinway had a few years ago, the damper felt was too soft.

John

It's always important to isolate exactly where it's coming from, otherwise you're chasing your tail. If you play and release the note, ringing occurs...if you put your finger on the unison and it immediately stops younknow its a damping issue. If it continues, its somewhere else. If its in the unison, which string(s) are generating it? Eliminate things till you isolate the specific problem. Then you can address it. (Treat the problem not the symptom). 

Peter Grey Piano Doctor 

Is it a metallic like ring or is it and after sound as an undampped string ? If it is a gong like sound you may need to add some more mass to a plate strut by using some strong square magnet. Damper leak may require some delicate bending of the damper heads to get equal felt fit especially if the damper felts are two piece. Make sure there is enough lost motion in the damper pedal . On the upright check for damper follow through by pressing on the strings to see if dampers move forward. You may need to bend the damper wire toward the strings at the base of the damper head. On the grand check the center pinning friction on the damper flanges, remove and polish, lubricate the damper guide wires for the two notes but keep in mind other notes could be leaking. Use a mirror to observe how the rear damper felt is sitting on the strings.   By any chance does the Boston Grand have a player system ? If so regulating the dampers is challenging

I have two newer Boston pianos, a grand and an upright that have a very prominent ring in just 2 notes in each piano. In the grand is in the bass wrapped strings and in the upright is is G#3 and A3. I have tried leveling the strings, mating the hammers, voicing the hammers and checking for loose braiding in the waste ends. Nothing has had any effect on the overtone ring.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I should check 

My experience with plate strut ringing tends to be in the lower frequency range. Often it's the long strut at the bass/tenor break that vibrates. When it gets ugly is when the strut frequency is very close to that of say a bass note, such that it sets up a beating that pulsates in an annoying manner. Once you tune in to it you can't not hear it. That's when I put weights on to lower the frequency out of the annoyance range. What Rex is talking about does not seem to fall I to this category from what I've read.

Peter Grey Piano Doctor 

Regarding magnets go to Harbor Freight Tool and buy two of their magnetic tool bars. You can do a fast check with a full length bar laying it on of the strut to see if it has an effect. You can then cut various lengths from the other tool bar and experiment with them. There are no specific gram weights - you need to experiment. 

Rex,

A fast way to isolate the problem is to use masking tape, put the tape across all the strings then remove till you locate the problem

It sounds a little like what Steinway had a few years ago, the damper felt was too soft.

John

It's always important to isolate exactly where it's coming from, otherwise you're chasing your tail. If you play and release the note, ringing occurs...if you put your finger on the unison and it immediately stops younknow its a damping issue. If it continues, its somewhere else. If its in the unison, which string(s) are generating it? Eliminate things till you isolate the specific problem. Then you can address it. (Treat the problem not the symptom). 

Peter Grey Piano Doctor 

Is it a metallic like ring or is it and after sound as an undampped string ? If it is a gong like sound you may need to add some more mass to a plate strut by using some strong square magnet. Damper leak may require some delicate bending of the damper heads to get equal felt fit especially if the damper felts are two piece. Make sure there is enough lost motion in the damper pedal . On the upright check for damper follow through by pressing on the strings to see if dampers move forward. You may need to bend the damper wire toward the strings at the base of the damper head. On the grand check the center pinning friction on the damper flanges, remove and polish, lubricate the damper guide wires for the two notes but keep in mind other notes could be leaking. Use a mirror to observe how the rear damper felt is sitting on the strings.   By any chance does the Boston Grand have a player system ? If so regulating the dampers is challenging

I have two newer Boston pianos, a grand and an upright that have a very prominent ring in just 2 notes in each piano. In the grand is in the bass wrapped strings and in the upright is is G#3 and A3. I have tried leveling the strings, mating the hammers, voicing the hammers and checking for loose braiding in the waste ends. Nothing has had any effect on the overtone ring.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I should check