Pianotech

Hello, 

I have what seems like a straightforward repair, but wanted to get some advice/confirmation before I find out how many ways I can be wrong.

I have a customer with a Yamaha G2.  The spring for the damper pedal trap-work lever is missing/lost. All that is there is the empty inset hole for it.  At Schaff I was able to find 3 springs with no further description-

Steinway damper spring 1201

Spring 7" for wire cutters 227-1/2B

Spring 5 1/2 for wire cutters 227-1/2A

Would one of these be intended as replacement for the pedal spring?  Is it expected you should be cutting a spring to fit?  And if that's the case, can I use a compression spring that fits the hole from a hardware store (since I don't need any other supplies at the moment).  And is it usually just the bare spring in the empty hole, or is their anything used buffer either point of contact (typically I always encounter these in place and working so I haven't examined- I don't own a grand).

So hopefully I simplify insert a new spring to replace the missing one.   I just want to avoid a  result that's too strong, too weak, or noisy.

Grateful for any advice or reassurance on this task.  Thanks in advance !

Kevin

Hello, 

I have what seems like a straightforward repair, but wanted to get some advice/confirmation before I find out how many ways I can be wrong.

I have a customer with a Yamaha G2.  The spring for the damper pedal trap-work lever is missing/lost. All that is there is the empty inset hole for it.  At Schaff I was able to find 3 springs with no further description-

Steinway damper spring 1201

Spring 7" for wire cutters 227-1/2B

Spring 5 1/2 for wire cutters 227-1/2A

Would one of these be intended as replacement for the pedal spring?  Is it expected you should be cutting a spring to fit?  And if that's the case, can I use a compression spring that fits the hole from a hardware store (since I don't need any other supplies at the moment).  And is it usually just the bare spring in the empty hole, or is their anything used buffer either point of contact (typically I always encounter these in place and working so I haven't examined- I don't own a grand).

So hopefully I simplify insert a new spring to replace the missing one.   I just want to avoid a  result that's too strong, too weak, or noisy.

Grateful for any advice or reassurance on this task.  Thanks in advance !

Kevin

Yamaha tech support: 714-522-9980 

Hello, 

I have what seems like a straightforward repair, but wanted to get some advice/confirmation before I find out how many ways I can be wrong.

I have a customer with a Yamaha G2.  The spring for the damper pedal trap-work lever is missing/lost. All that is there is the empty inset hole for it.  At Schaff I was able to find 3 springs with no further description-

Steinway damper spring 1201

Spring 7" for wire cutters 227-1/2B

Spring 5 1/2 for wire cutters 227-1/2A

Would one of these be intended as replacement for the pedal spring?  Is it expected you should be cutting a spring to fit?  And if that's the case, can I use a compression spring that fits the hole from a hardware store (since I don't need any other supplies at the moment).  And is it usually just the bare spring in the empty hole, or is their anything used buffer either point of contact (typically I always encounter these in place and working so I haven't examined- I don't own a grand).

So hopefully I simplify insert a new spring to replace the missing one.   I just want to avoid a  result that's too strong, too weak, or noisy.

Grateful for any advice or reassurance on this task.  Thanks in advance !

Kevin

Thank you both!

Yamaha tech support: 714-522-9980 

Hello, 

I have what seems like a straightforward repair, but wanted to get some advice/confirmation before I find out how many ways I can be wrong.

I have a customer with a Yamaha G2.  The spring for the damper pedal trap-work lever is missing/lost. All that is there is the empty inset hole for it.  At Schaff I was able to find 3 springs with no further description-

Steinway damper spring 1201

Spring 7" for wire cutters 227-1/2B

Spring 5 1/2 for wire cutters 227-1/2A

Would one of these be intended as replacement for the pedal spring?  Is it expected you should be cutting a spring to fit?  And if that's the case, can I use a compression spring that fits the hole from a hardware store (since I don't need any other supplies at the moment).  And is it usually just the bare spring in the empty hole, or is their anything used buffer either point of contact (typically I always encounter these in place and working so I haven't examined- I don't own a grand).

So hopefully I simplify insert a new spring to replace the missing one.   I just want to avoid a  result that's too strong, too weak, or noisy.

Grateful for any advice or reassurance on this task.  Thanks in advance !

Kevin

One thing to consider is that some clients prefer a very light pedal. On at least a couple of occasions, I've experimented with removing the spring altogether to see how the client responds and they've liked it.  Some systems will function fine without the spring. However, many times, the trap lever needs a slight push to ensure that the damper tray firmly rests below the damper levers.

Perhaps the spring fell out during a move, but it might have also been intentionally removed by a technician at some point. Additionally, having a few springs from the hardware store that fit into the recess and have varying strengths can provide you with options to customize the feel for your client. It's also relatively easy to retrofit a leaf spring, which can offer a lot of control over the tension depending on where you position it and how strong the spring is.

By the way, if in the future anyone decides to experiment with removing the original spring, it's a good idea to tape it to the bottom of the piano near the trap work so that it will be easy to find and install again in the future if needed. 

Best of luck!

Thank you both!

Yamaha tech support: 714-522-9980 

Hello, 

I have what seems like a straightforward repair, but wanted to get some advice/confirmation before I find out how many ways I can be wrong.

I have a customer with a Yamaha G2.  The spring for the damper pedal trap-work lever is missing/lost. All that is there is the empty inset hole for it.  At Schaff I was able to find 3 springs with no further description-

Steinway damper spring 1201

Spring 7" for wire cutters 227-1/2B

Spring 5 1/2 for wire cutters 227-1/2A

Would one of these be intended as replacement for the pedal spring?  Is it expected you should be cutting a spring to fit?  And if that's the case, can I use a compression spring that fits the hole from a hardware store (since I don't need any other supplies at the moment).  And is it usually just the bare spring in the empty hole, or is their anything used buffer either point of contact (typically I always encounter these in place and working so I haven't examined- I don't own a grand).

So hopefully I simplify insert a new spring to replace the missing one.   I just want to avoid a  result that's too strong, too weak, or noisy.

Grateful for any advice or reassurance on this task.  Thanks in advance !

Kevin

One thing to consider is that some clients prefer a very light pedal. On at least a couple of occasions, I've experimented with removing the spring altogether to see how the client responds and they've liked it.  Some systems will function fine without the spring. However, many times, the trap lever needs a slight push to ensure that the damper tray firmly rests below the damper levers.

Perhaps the spring fell out during a move, but it might have also been intentionally removed by a technician at some point. Additionally, having a few springs from the hardware store that fit into the recess and have varying strengths can provide you with options to customize the feel for your client. It's also relatively easy to retrofit a leaf spring, which can offer a lot of control over the tension depending on where you position it and how strong the spring is.

By the way, if in the future anyone decides to experiment with removing the original spring, it's a good idea to tape it to the bottom of the piano near the trap work so that it will be easy to find and install again in the future if needed. 

Best of luck!

Thank you both!

Yamaha tech support: 714-522-9980 

Hello, 

I have what seems like a straightforward repair, but wanted to get some advice/confirmation before I find out how many ways I can be wrong.

I have a customer with a Yamaha G2.  The spring for the damper pedal trap-work lever is missing/lost. All that is there is the empty inset hole for it.  At Schaff I was able to find 3 springs with no further description-

Steinway damper spring 1201

Spring 7" for wire cutters 227-1/2B

Spring 5 1/2 for wire cutters 227-1/2A

Would one of these be intended as replacement for the pedal spring?  Is it expected you should be cutting a spring to fit?  And if that's the case, can I use a compression spring that fits the hole from a hardware store (since I don't need any other supplies at the moment).  And is it usually just the bare spring in the empty hole, or is their anything used buffer either point of contact (typically I always encounter these in place and working so I haven't examined- I don't own a grand).

So hopefully I simplify insert a new spring to replace the missing one.   I just want to avoid a  result that's too strong, too weak, or noisy.

Grateful for any advice or reassurance on this task.  Thanks in advance !

Kevin

Hello, 

I have what seems like a straightforward repair, but wanted to get some advice/confirmation before I find out how many ways I can be wrong.

I have a customer with a Yamaha G2.  The spring for the damper pedal trap-work lever is missing/lost. All that is there is the empty inset hole for it.  At Schaff I was able to find 3 springs with no further description-

Steinway damper spring 1201

Spring 7" for wire cutters 227-1/2B

Spring 5 1/2 for wire cutters 227-1/2A

Would one of these be intended as replacement for the pedal spring?  Is it expected you should be cutting a spring to fit?  And if that's the case, can I use a compression spring that fits the hole from a hardware store (since I don't need any other supplies at the moment).  And is it usually just the bare spring in the empty hole, or is their anything used buffer either point of contact (typically I always encounter these in place and working so I haven't examined- I don't own a grand).

So hopefully I simplify insert a new spring to replace the missing one.   I just want to avoid a  result that's too strong, too weak, or noisy.

Grateful for any advice or reassurance on this task.  Thanks in advance !

Kevin