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Just thinking this through. Would there be a downside with putting a slit in the rubber grommet, like we do for key punchings? I can see how it would save a lot of time during installation.

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Benjamin Sanchez, RPT
Piano Technician / Artisan
(256) 947-9999
www.professional-piano-services.com
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hello Benjamin,
i have done this quite several times and have seen no issues with it.
Peter

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Petrus Janssen
Peachtree City GA
(678) 416-8055
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Original Message:
Sent: 09-06-2022 09:43
From: Benjamin Sanchez
Subject: Replacing Rubber Grommets

Just thinking this through. Would there be a downside with putting a slit in the rubber grommet, like we do for key punchings? I can see how it would save a lot of time during installation.

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Benjamin Sanchez, RPT
Piano Technician / Artisan
(256) 947-9999
www.professional-piano-services.com
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Ben. While I’ve never done it that way, I’ve heard it done like that successfully by many technicians. My only concern is when the screw or nut has to be adjusted for lost motion.

Wim

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Original Message:
Sent: 9/6/2022 9:44:00 AM
From: Benjamin Sanchez
Subject: Replacing Rubber Grommets

Just thinking this through. Would there be a downside with putting a slit in the rubber grommet, like we do for key punchings? I can see how it would save a lot of time during installation.

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Benjamin Sanchez, RPT
Piano Technician / Artisan
(256) 947-9999
www.professional-piano-services.com
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I tried it today and it went well. Much faster than disassembling the lifters. Had to adjust lost motion afterwards, no issues with the grommets.

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Benjamin Sanchez, RPT
Piano Technician / Artisan
(256) 947-9999
www.professional-piano-services.com
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Original Message:
Sent: 09-06-2022 11:07
From: Wim Blees
Subject: Replacing Rubber Grommets

Ben. While I've never done it that way, I've heard it done like that successfully by many technicians. My only concern is when the screw or nut has to be adjusted for lost motion.

Wim

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Original Message:
Sent: 9/6/2022 9:44:00 AM
From: Benjamin Sanchez
Subject: Replacing Rubber Grommets

Just thinking this through. Would there be a downside with putting a slit in the rubber grommet, like we do for key punchings? I can see how it would save a lot of time during installation.

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Benjamin Sanchez, RPT
Piano Technician / Artisan
(256) 947-9999
www.professional-piano-services.com
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Ben. My concern isn’t when the grommets are new and flexible. What will happen in 25-30 years when the rubber is hard. Will the slice in the grommet still hold when adjusting lost motion?

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Original Message:
Sent: 9/6/2022 8:28:00 PM
From: Benjamin Sanchez
Subject: RE: Replacing Rubber Grommets

I tried it today and it went well. Much faster than disassembling the lifters. Had to adjust lost motion afterwards, no issues with the grommets.

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Benjamin Sanchez, RPT
Piano Technician / Artisan
(256) 947-9999
www.professional-piano-services.com
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Original Message:
Sent: 09-06-2022 11:07
From: Wim Blees
Subject: Replacing Rubber Grommets

Ben. While I've never done it that way, I've heard it done like that successfully by many technicians. My only concern is when the screw or nut has to be adjusted for lost motion.

Wim

Sent from my iPhone


Original Message:
Sent: 9/6/2022 9:44:00 AM
From: Benjamin Sanchez
Subject: Replacing Rubber Grommets

Just thinking this through. Would there be a downside with putting a slit in the rubber grommet, like we do for key punchings? I can see how it would save a lot of time during installation.

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Benjamin Sanchez, RPT
Piano Technician / Artisan
(256) 947-9999
www.professional-piano-services.com
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Hi Wim,
When the rubber gets hard, it'll be time to replace them again as they will start getting noisy and breaking apart.
Peter

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Petrus Janssen
Peachtree City GA
(678) 416-8055
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Original Message:
Sent: 09-07-2022 04:47
From: Wim Blees
Subject: Replacing Rubber Grommets

Ben. My concern isn't when the grommets are new and flexible. What will happen in 25-30 years when the rubber is hard. Will the slice in the grommet still hold when adjusting lost motion?

Sent from my iPhone


Original Message:
Sent: 9/6/2022 8:28:00 PM
From: Benjamin Sanchez
Subject: RE: Replacing Rubber Grommets

I tried it today and it went well. Much faster than disassembling the lifters. Had to adjust lost motion afterwards, no issues with the grommets.

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Benjamin Sanchez, RPT
Piano Technician / Artisan
(256) 947-9999
www.professional-piano-services.com

Original Message:
Sent: 09-06-2022 11:07
From: Wim Blees
Subject: Replacing Rubber Grommets

Ben. While I've never done it that way, I've heard it done like that successfully by many technicians. My only concern is when the screw or nut has to be adjusted for lost motion.

Wim

Sent from my iPhone


Original Message:
Sent: 9/6/2022 9:44:00 AM
From: Benjamin Sanchez
Subject: Replacing Rubber Grommets

Just thinking this through. Would there be a downside with putting a slit in the rubber grommet, like we do for key punchings? I can see how it would save a lot of time during installation.

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Benjamin Sanchez, RPT
Piano Technician / Artisan
(256) 947-9999
www.professional-piano-services.com
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That was my thought too Peter.

Peter Grey Piano Doctor

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Peter Grey
Stratham NH
(603) 686-2395
pianodoctor57@gmail.com
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Original Message:
Sent: 09-07-2022 07:08
From: Petrus Janssen
Subject: Replacing Rubber Grommets

Hi Wim,
When the rubber gets hard, it'll be time to replace them again as they will start getting noisy and breaking apart.
Peter

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Petrus Janssen
Peachtree City GA
(678) 416-8055

Original Message:
Sent: 09-07-2022 04:47
From: Wim Blees
Subject: Replacing Rubber Grommets

Ben. My concern isn't when the grommets are new and flexible. What will happen in 25-30 years when the rubber is hard. Will the slice in the grommet still hold when adjusting lost motion?

Sent from my iPhone


Original Message:
Sent: 9/6/2022 8:28:00 PM
From: Benjamin Sanchez
Subject: RE: Replacing Rubber Grommets

I tried it today and it went well. Much faster than disassembling the lifters. Had to adjust lost motion afterwards, no issues with the grommets.

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Benjamin Sanchez, RPT
Piano Technician / Artisan
(256) 947-9999
www.professional-piano-services.com

Original Message:
Sent: 09-06-2022 11:07
From: Wim Blees
Subject: Replacing Rubber Grommets

Ben. While I've never done it that way, I've heard it done like that successfully by many technicians. My only concern is when the screw or nut has to be adjusted for lost motion.

Wim

Sent from my iPhone


Original Message:
Sent: 9/6/2022 9:44:00 AM
From: Benjamin Sanchez
Subject: Replacing Rubber Grommets

Just thinking this through. Would there be a downside with putting a slit in the rubber grommet, like we do for key punchings? I can see how it would save a lot of time during installation.

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Benjamin Sanchez, RPT
Piano Technician / Artisan
(256) 947-9999
www.professional-piano-services.com
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The last job like this that I did, the metal fingers that the grommet slides into were rusted.  In addition, many of the old grommets were so hard they disintegrated on removal with bits and pieces of the old grommet left sticking to the fingers.  I felt a lot better about the job by cleaning out all of that mess.

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Neil Vanderschaaf
Round Rock TX
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Original Message:
Sent: 09-06-2022 09:43
From: Benjamin Sanchez
Subject: Replacing Rubber Grommets

Just thinking this through. Would there be a downside with putting a slit in the rubber grommet, like we do for key punchings? I can see how it would save a lot of time during installation.

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Benjamin Sanchez, RPT
Piano Technician / Artisan
(256) 947-9999
www.professional-piano-services.com
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