Original Message:
Sent: 1/1/2025 1:29:00 PM
From: James Kelly
Subject: RE: Replacing wippens with Billings flanges
Can you post some pictures of the whippens showing the billings flanges and whippen rail as well as some hammers, shanks, flanges ?
------------------------------
James Kelly
Owner- Fur Elise Piano Service
Pawleys Island SC
(843) 325-4357
------------------------------
Original Message:
Sent: 12-31-2024 22:50
From: Joe Wiencek
Subject: Replacing wippens with Billings flanges
These wippens have separate coil springs for the jacks. I have considered replacing the cords, however, all the glue joints and bushings and hammer shanks and flanges are old and worn. The were no problems with the cords that I was aware of until I started regulating the springs for adequate tension. Perhaps this is why the tech who installed the hammers did not adjust the springs properly. Many of the spring tensioning screws are already over-tightened and splitting the rep lever.
Original Message:
Sent: 12/31/2024 9:43:00 PM
From: Steven Rosenthal
Subject: RE: Replacing wippens with Billings flanges
My experience is if the loops on the whips need replacing, so do the loops on the jacks if they have them. Not that bad a job once you get going.
------------------------------
Steven Rosenthal RPT
Honolulu HI
(808) 521-7129
Original Message:
Sent: 12-31-2024 17:34
From: James Kelly
Subject: Replacing wippens with Billings flanges
If it is a no name piano why go through all of that work which is expensive and time consuming to put new WN&G parts in it. Brooks may be able to come up with whips that will work. New cords may be the best solution here
------------------------------
James Kelly
Owner- Fur Elise Piano Service
Pawleys Island SC
(843) 325-4357
Original Message:
Sent: 12-31-2024 16:14
From: Joe Wiencek
Subject: Replacing wippens with Billings flanges
I am looking to propose a wippen replacement on a no-name, tiny baby grand. Currently, the rep spring cord loops are breaking, the flanges are Billings style. Does anyone have experience to share about converting the wippen rail to standard flanges? I am thinking to adapt WNG wippens to this action. Aside from ensuring the spread and differential will work, and get me close to the magic line and a decent action ratio, what pitfalls may be lurking for me? I intend to propose new shanks and hammers that will give a strike weight appropriate to make the action nice and playable, which it currently is not. The board, block and strings were replaced (decently,) though all original parts remain, other than poorly chosen new hammer weights and terrible tail shaping.
I could just replace the spring cord loops and wippen cushions, though I would much rather update the action with new wippens.
------------------------------
Joe Wiencek
New York NY
------------------------------