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Sounds to me like the pinblock is probably cracked and any efforts to tighten with larger pins or sleeves/shims will only expand the crack. Which, I would guess, is why they were ineffective. 

I have heard of pulling the pins soaking the pinblock with thin epoxy and re-drilling, but I would guess that's beyond what the piano is worth. 

Maybe someone else will have a suggestion for an effective repair.

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Trevor Penner
Hillsboro KS
(620) 877-0306
music2himalone@gmail.com
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For the larger pins (#4 and 5), did you drive or screw them in? How did you remove the original pins?

CA might be the best treatment in this circumstance.

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Tim Foster RPT
New Oxford PA
(470) 231-6074
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Original Message:
Sent: 01-21-2026 13:57
From: Trevor Penner
Subject: Solution for loose tuning pins

Sounds to me like the pinblock is probably cracked and any efforts to tighten with larger pins or sleeves/shims will only expand the crack. Which, I would guess, is why they were ineffective. 

I have heard of pulling the pins soaking the pinblock with thin epoxy and re-drilling, but I would guess that's beyond what the piano is worth. 

Maybe someone else will have a suggestion for an effective repair.

------------------------------
Trevor Penner
Hillsboro KS
(620) 877-0306
music2himalone@gmail.com

Quite frankly I would discuss the fact that the piano is exhibiting signs that it has reached it's expiration date. Time to start looking around.

People buy these things THINKING they are built to last generations...poppycock! They need a dose of reality. 30-40 years is about it  especially for pianos like this. 

Peter Grey Piano Doctor 

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Peter Grey
Stratham NH
(603) 686-2395
pianodoctor57@gmail.com
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Original Message:
Sent: 01-21-2026 22:52
From: Tim Foster
Subject: Solution for loose tuning pins

For the larger pins (#4 and 5), did you drive or screw them in? How did you remove the original pins?

CA might be the best treatment in this circumstance.

------------------------------
Tim Foster RPT
New Oxford PA
(470) 231-6074


Original Message:
Sent: 01-21-2026 13:57
From: Trevor Penner
Subject: Solution for loose tuning pins

Sounds to me like the pinblock is probably cracked and any efforts to tighten with larger pins or sleeves/shims will only expand the crack. Which, I would guess, is why they were ineffective. 

I have heard of pulling the pins soaking the pinblock with thin epoxy and re-drilling, but I would guess that's beyond what the piano is worth. 

Maybe someone else will have a suggestion for an effective repair.

------------------------------
Trevor Penner
Hillsboro KS
(620) 877-0306
music2himalone@gmail.com

Quite frankly I would discuss the fact that the piano is exhibiting signs that it has reached it's expiration date. Time to start looking around.

People buy these things THINKING they are built to last generations...poppycock! They need a dose of reality. 30-40 years is about it  especially for pianos like this. 

Peter Grey Piano Doctor 

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Peter Grey
Stratham NH
(603) 686-2395
pianodoctor57@gmail.com
------------------------------


Original Message:
Sent: 01-21-2026 22:52
From: Tim Foster
Subject: Solution for loose tuning pins

For the larger pins (#4 and 5), did you drive or screw them in? How did you remove the original pins?

CA might be the best treatment in this circumstance.

------------------------------
Tim Foster RPT
New Oxford PA
(470) 231-6074


Original Message:
Sent: 01-21-2026 13:57
From: Trevor Penner
Subject: Solution for loose tuning pins

Sounds to me like the pinblock is probably cracked and any efforts to tighten with larger pins or sleeves/shims will only expand the crack. Which, I would guess, is why they were ineffective. 

I have heard of pulling the pins soaking the pinblock with thin epoxy and re-drilling, but I would guess that's beyond what the piano is worth. 

Maybe someone else will have a suggestion for an effective repair.

------------------------------
Trevor Penner
Hillsboro KS
(620) 877-0306
music2himalone@gmail.com

Quite frankly I would discuss the fact that the piano is exhibiting signs that it has reached it's expiration date. Time to start looking around.

People buy these things THINKING they are built to last generations...poppycock! They need a dose of reality. 30-40 years is about it  especially for pianos like this. 

Peter Grey Piano Doctor 

------------------------------
Peter Grey
Stratham NH
(603) 686-2395
pianodoctor57@gmail.com
------------------------------


Original Message:
Sent: 01-21-2026 22:52
From: Tim Foster
Subject: Solution for loose tuning pins

For the larger pins (#4 and 5), did you drive or screw them in? How did you remove the original pins?

CA might be the best treatment in this circumstance.

------------------------------
Tim Foster RPT
New Oxford PA
(470) 231-6074


Original Message:
Sent: 01-21-2026 13:57
From: Trevor Penner
Subject: Solution for loose tuning pins

Sounds to me like the pinblock is probably cracked and any efforts to tighten with larger pins or sleeves/shims will only expand the crack. Which, I would guess, is why they were ineffective. 

I have heard of pulling the pins soaking the pinblock with thin epoxy and re-drilling, but I would guess that's beyond what the piano is worth. 

Maybe someone else will have a suggestion for an effective repair.

------------------------------
Trevor Penner
Hillsboro KS
(620) 877-0306
music2himalone@gmail.com

Sound like it might be time to let this piano join the rest of the Story & Clark consoles that have found their way to the county landfill. I have a Story & Clark console on my list of pianos to tune today - and this one, just as most all others I have encountered, belongs in the county landfill.   🙁