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Unequal temperament playlist

  • 1.  Unequal temperament playlist

    Posted 03-26-2025 10:20

    Messages have been filtering through about the alternative tuning which I've been advocating.

    Below is a reasonably comprehensive playlist which may be a good guide as to how well instruments and repertoire respond. A commentator on the Rachmaninoff recording complained about faulty unisons but of course my recordings are of real life concerts and those at Hammerwood require my wife and I to be general dogsbodies welcoming people and preparing, and getting mics and recording equipment prepared, without the opportunity to give that pre-concert attention to the instrument that perhaps we might for a formal definitive recording. Not all recordings are perfect but hopefully exemplify the genre.

    In the course of performance one becomes aware of chords changing shape upon modulation. Upon familiarity with this ear-tweak, its loss when one is forced to suffer an equal tempered experience is devastating and the result, frustrating, unsatisfying and boring.

    At the bottom of the list is a recording from 2006 when 19 years ago perhaps my tuning might be excused for being at the beginning of its journey, but still demonstrating applicability to the repertoire.

    https://youtu.be/JvrGV58ZsAU?t=1089 in Greece - Schubert, Kreisler, Lily Boulanger - Kellner based

    https://youtu.be/RXymuml03pE?t=843 Brahms duets - Kellner based

    https://youtu.be/90964qqS3Q0?t=1162 Baroque - Kirnberger III based - https://youtu.be/90964qqS3Q0?t=3028 Voytenko and Bottesini

    https://youtu.be/aIVUyu7v48U Fauré Debussy, Liszt - Kirnberger III and Mozart on 1802 in Meantone and Kirnberger III

    https://youtu.be/Wiu68b85N1Y Brahms, Schumann - Kirnberger III
    https://youtu.be/MNRA9GO1A_A Broadwood 1859 Iron Concert Grand - Kirnberger III - Chopin, Liszt, Busoni
     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-nvS5m8cko Beethoven - Kirnberger III
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9V4vlgDaks Bach 48 experiments Kirnberger III
    https://youtu.be/dIGb5qIrqn4 1802 instrument in Meantone
    https://youtu.be/C3w7cgwG6-E Jazz and Maqam - Kirnberger III
    https://youtu.be/12Cu8kt9cnw Schubert Kirnberger III

    https://youtu.be/HSiZ2ilGY-4 <yt-formatted-string force-default-style="" class="style-scope ytd-watch-metadata" title="Haydn Stravinsky Beethoven Messaein Mendelssohn in unequal temperament">Haydn Stravinsky Beethoven Messaein Mendelssohn - Kirnberger III</yt-formatted-string>

    https://youtu.be/_52SJEgY2YU Mozart Schumann Gilbert Rosso - Kellner with orchestra

    https://youtu.be/WKbq54Zf-OU Mozart, Saint Saens, Frank Bridge - Kellner
    https://youtu.be/Hp6-GtXNa6A Brahms Schubert - Kellner
    https://youtu.be/p4NpeoNpDOA Haydn Chopin Mendlessohn Schumann - Kellner
    https://youtu.be/rfqhL7UaB3Y Schumann Haydn Beethoven - Kellner
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdILlgT4L7M Mozart Haydn - Meantone or Kirnberger III and Kellner
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2h_VXV0vSmA Michael Haydn, Joseph Haydn, Beethoven, Chopin - Kellner
    https://youtu.be/6wdMbiOlw9s Jazz Kellner
    https://youtu.be/5xhRPI1LlO0 Shostakovich - Kellner
    https://youtu.be/9qy9J-fQIHI Mendelssohn - 1819 Broadwood  - probably Kirnberger III
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXZxR0AaXAA Beethoven - 1819 Broadwood - Probably Kirnberger III
    https://youtu.be/z9gZ4g-3GXg Bach Mozart Ravel - Kellner
    https://youtu.be/p8gJqrVVpdg Albeniz - Kellner
    https://youtu.be/r70h0GW14k4 Albeniz - Kellner
    https://youtu.be/yffLniiZAoc Chopin Liszt - Kirnberger III
    https://youtu.be/uTiMNFjfyZ0 Jazz - Kellner
    https://youtu.be/4L-sbXa6h9o Prokofiev and Turina 2013
    and https://youtu.be/EvJIeIXNAYw Rebecca Clarke Sonata from around 2006
    Tuning isn't how the piano sounds. The piano isn't the end result. The end result is the music. Tuning is about how the music sounds.
    Since the mass production particularly of the piano Brands in the time of Victorian industrialisation, the philosophy of tuning has been directed by the factory technicians to achieve an apparent perfection of the piano rather than a perfection of musical expression. The Brands which follow their misdirected path will cease to be relevant in contrast to any brand which now embraces the expression of the music.
    As a footnote, anyone in London is welcome to visit the Pleyel showroom
    where a Pleyel instrument
    is tuned to my variant of Kirnberger III
    Best wishes
    David P


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    David Pinnegar BSc ARCS
    Hammerwood Park, East Grinstead, Sussex, UK
    +44 1342 850594
    "High Definition" Tuning
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