Pianotech

  • 1.  Yamaha U3's

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-22-2024 09:00

    Hi all,

     

    We have several Yamaha U-3's here at the School of Music.

     

    I find that they, above all the other uprights, tend to go quite sharp in the middle section and flat in the bass.

    Has anyone else noticed that?

    Thanks

    Paul

     



  • 2.  RE: Yamaha U3's

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-22-2024 10:09

    You can compensate by tuning down in tenor and middle and up in bass and other areas that tend to go flat.  Tune below then up to pitch and above and down to pitch.

    The tuning pins tends to want to revert opposite of the last direction of movement.  Same technique works for Boston uprights.



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  • 3.  RE: Yamaha U3's

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-22-2024 10:12
    Paul.

    Do the pianos have a DC in them? Before I came to UNF, Fred Brown installed a DC in all the pianos. I really helped with the tuning stability problem.
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  • 4.  RE: Yamaha U3's

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-22-2024 10:15

    1) Sure that's the way they behave. Although the bass doesn't usually go particularly flat (I assume the high increase of tension in the low-to-mid tenor flexs the soundboard in the area of the bass bridge). You really should have at least DC rods & humidistats installed on them. The DC back cover would help too.  



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  • 5.  RE: Yamaha U3's

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-22-2024 12:04

    There are no DC's installed on any of our uprights.

     

    I'm wondering why it happens so dramatically on just the U-3's?  The other Yamahas are pretty stable and the grands are also good.

     

    Is there a design issue with the U-3's?

    Roger Gable, do you have an idea?  I know you have a bunch of them in your rental fleet.

    When tuned, they are great. Nice and clean with very little false beats or other upright issues.

     

    PW






  • 6.  RE: Yamaha U3's

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-22-2024 12:22

    Paul,

    Yes, I have 6 of them which I bought about 25 years ago. I just checked one of them I tuned in May. It's good. Are your U3 gray market? Mine are not.

    Coincidently, I find the U1 to be the most problematic at the tenor break and the E and F in octave 5 where the bridge has been notched out to accommodate plate strut clearance.



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    Roger Gable RPT
    Gable Piano
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  • 7.  RE: Yamaha U3's

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-22-2024 12:27

    These are also about 25 years old. They all have the 3 pedals with practice felt bars.

    Are there other ways to know if they are "gray".

     

    Yes, your areas are the same. Massively sharp about A46 to the tenor break and then flat in the bass.

     

    No other uprights do this:  Hamiltons, U-1's, all about 20-40 years old.

     

    Thanks

    Paul

     






  • 8.  RE: Yamaha U3's

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-22-2024 13:17

    Paul,

    I believe the gray market U series pianos had a brass tag imbedded on inside of the lid edge -- only visible when the folded lid is open. As for the other pianos that don't move much with climate change, I have a theory about that. As a piano ages, the soundboard crown deteriorates, the crown moves less -- one reason, I believe, old uprights are very stable.  



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    Roger Gable RPT
    Gable Piano
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  • 9.  RE: Yamaha U3's

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-22-2024 15:11
    I'll look at that
    Thanks Roger





  • 10.  RE: Yamaha U3's

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-23-2024 07:49

    I just inspected the piano, and there's no brass tag. It was purchased new for the school.






  • 11.  RE: Yamaha U3's

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 09-22-2024 13:53

    Yes, look it up on the Yamaha website Piano Serial Number Lookup (yamaha.com).  It will say if the piano was not made for the American market.



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