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  • 1.  Find a Tech

    Posted 06-06-2022 17:40
    For some reason I cannot 'find a tech' on PTG website.
    I would think this would be easy and not require a log in.
    Help please, looking in the Templeton, CA area.
    I have used this resource before to find out of  the area technicians,
    most useful, if I could. 
    Potential clients are likely more computer savvy than me.
    Fenton


  • 2.  RE: Find a Tech

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-06-2022 20:08
    Looks like they forgot to include that (important) link in the site upgrade.
    I can't find it.

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    Steven Rosenthal RPT
    Honolulu HI
    (808) 521-7129
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  • 3.  RE: Find a Tech

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-06-2022 22:08
    All the updates to the website have so far been pretty much drag and drop. PTG obviously has a team working on this. Kathy informed me that there are several parts of the website, particularly the find a tech link, that are not back yet because they are requiring some actual programming that is beyond the scope of the current web designers. She confirmed that the find a tech link is high priority, it's just taking longer than planned. In the meantime, there is a phone number on the ptg.org home page that you can call and they'll look up whatever search you want to make.

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    Geoff Sykes, RPT
    Los Angeles CA
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  • 4.  RE: Find a Tech

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-06-2022 22:33
    2020 directory 
    https://higherlogicdownload.s3-external-1.amazonaws.com/PTG/2020-PTG-Members-Alpha.pdf?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAVRDO7IEREB57R7MT&Expires=1654572699&Signature=dx3%2FWiYhA7BViUqkIkgyxOhzgPw%3D

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    Larry Messerly, RPT
    Bringing Harmony to Homes
    www.lacrossepianotuning.com
    ljmesserly@gmail.com
    928-899-7292
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  • 5.  RE: Find a Tech

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-06-2022 22:36
    By region
    https://higherlogicdownload.s3-external-1.amazonaws.com/PTG/2020-PTG-Members-Region-Chapter-Alpha.pdf?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAVRDO7IEREB57R7MT&Expires=1654572877&Signature=cB8GCVlfiG4Paq8RHUEQb7P7o74%3D

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    Larry Messerly, RPT
    Bringing Harmony to Homes
    www.lacrossepianotuning.com
    ljmesserly@gmail.com
    928-899-7292
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  • 6.  RE: Find a Tech

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-07-2022 00:17
    I just get an error message with these links.

    I would also like the find a tech link - very difficult right now.

    Nancy Salmon, RPT





  • 7.  RE: Find a Tech

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-07-2022 14:20
    Nancy, the links work for me. Are you signed in on ptg.org?

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    Larry Messerly, RPT
    Bringing Harmony to Homes
    www.lacrossepianotuning.com
    ljmesserly@gmail.com
    928-899-7292
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  • 8.  RE: Find a Tech

    Posted 06-07-2022 14:38
    Try this link for the 2020 Region-Chapter-Alpha Directory PDF. A couple of years old, but you can search the PDF. Grouped by region, chapter, then alphabetically. RPT designation indicated next to name. Might be helpful until we rebuild the searchable directories.

    https://my.ptg.org/viewdocument/2020-member-region-chapter-alpha-di

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    Kathy Maxwell
    Education/Certification and Project Development
    Piano Technicians Guild

    "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn."
    Benjamin Franklin
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  • 9.  RE: Find a Tech

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-07-2022 00:19
    I just discovered that when I referred somebody to the website to find a tech out of my area. That needs to be corrected. that was a very valuable tool for nonmembers

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    David Love RPT
    www.davidlovepianos.com
    davidlovepianos@comcast.net
    415 407 8320
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  • 10.  RE: Find a Tech

    Posted 06-07-2022 06:32
    Most people will simply do a Google search for piano tuner or similar term.

    Also, many will simply go to Google maps and search for "piano tuner."  Then they'll see listed piano techs in their area: a quick way to see who's in the area. It's free to list one's business. I learned this when a customer told me they'd searched on maps and found another tech, who then referred to me. I was closer to this customer but I wasn't on the map (I am now.)

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    Don Dalton
    Chester VT
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  • 11.  RE: Find a Tech

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-08-2022 08:10
    Dalton,

    While it is true that Google is an alternate resource, it will return results from anybody who thinks they are a "tooner". 
    Yelp and YP don't actually tell you if a provider is good or not. I personally know of a few that have high ratings but
    in reality can't deliver even minimally acceptable work. 

    The PTG is a much better source. Not only is there a better chance of finding decent technical providers, it is almost
    assured since the link only referred RPTs (or used to). 

    I have not seen the link lately. Kathy Maxwell said it was down while the website was being transitioned. But you can access the
    list of techs by chapter or refer the enquiry to Home Office. 



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    Dave Conte

    University of Tennessee
    Knoxville TN
    (817) 307-5656
    Owner: Rocky Top Piano
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  • 12.  RE: Find a Tech

    Posted 06-08-2022 08:18
    Agree that Google can't tell us who is legitimate. However, it's true that many people use Google to finder tooners. My point was that it's a free way to get one's name out there.

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    Don Dalton
    Chester VT
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  • 13.  RE: Find a Tech

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-08-2022 09:13

    Good morning all,

    I'm not sure it's obvious to everyone but the member directory is still available but buried a little deeper. 

    Go to PtG.org & click the drop down menu. Click >PTG Members>My Portal then click that drop down menu and there's the member directory. 

    Now, having shared that as a tip for members, my office is getting 3-6 calls per week for referrals to qualified technicians. We're using the directory to give current, updated contact information. 


    This has certainly proven to me that value and effectiveness of the “Find an RPT” asset so I'll be glad when the programming is finished and we get it back up and running. 


    AG



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    Allan Gilreath, RPT
    Registered Piano Technician & President
    Allan Gilreath & Associates, Inc
    Calhoun, GA
    706-602-7667
    allan@allangilreath.com - www.allangilreath.com
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  • 14.  RE: Find a Tech

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-09-2022 01:03
    I am a little disappointed that the web site change over is taking so long and , of course, I had a long time client who is moving halfway across country and last week I had to revert to the last credit card USB directory which is about 6 years old.

    I do hope Find a Tech returns and also that we have similar pull downs to search the member directory by chapters and other options. The current directory, as is, is better than nothing.

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    Tremaine Parsons RPT
    Georgetown CA
    (530) 333-9299
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  • 15.  RE: Find a Tech

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-14-2022 17:10
    Allen,

    Am I imagining it or was it once possible to look someone up by zip code? Or was that only on the "Find a Tech" button. I need to do that but can't. 

    Thanks,
    Maggie

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    Maggie Jusiel, RPT
    Athens, WV
    (304)952-8615
    mags@timandmaggie.net
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  • 16.  RE: Find a Tech

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-14-2022 18:17
    Maggie

    I found the directory, as described by Alan, and downloaded it on "my favorite" bar. 
    This directory allows a search by first name, last name, state, or chapter. But not zip code or city. 
    Also, the directory is in alphabetical order, but by the person's first name. 

    Wim





  • 17.  RE: Find a Tech

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-15-2022 01:01
    Thanks. This is a bit of a challenge. I may try a chapter search tomorrow.

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    Maggie Jusiel, RPT
    Athens, WV
    (304)952-8615
    mags@timandmaggie.net
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  • 18.  RE: Find a Tech

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-14-2022 22:00
    This is pretty much a bummer. I think we may be going on to almost 4 weeks with this changeover. I mean I'm patient but "Hello". It would have been easy to maintain a portal to the old directory system unless the home office fired Higher Logic. Sorry, but this was poorly planned unless something happened that we don't know about. NO SPECULATION ON THIS, PLEASE, UNLESS THE HOME OFFICE WOULD LIKE TO REACH OUT WITH AN EXPLANATION TO MEMBERS.

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    Tremaine Parsons RPT
    Georgetown CA
    (530) 333-9299
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  • 19.  RE: Find a Tech

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-15-2022 02:11
    At the risk of repeating myself, the Home Office has been without web support ever since Clint left for greener pastures. I don't know if HL is responsible for the new website, but it is overall an improvement from the old one. But, according to Kathy, the old website, all it's servers and database files simply no longer exist. She has been pretty much building the current website by what I'm guessing, (guessing. I don't know for sure.), is a drag and drop site building tool. The reason the search features are gone is because they all disappeared with the previous website when it was taken down and the server disconnected. Even if she had been able to keep the old code none of it would run on a different server without some expert programming. The reason they are taking so long to be made available again is because she has nobody around that can do the necessary database programming to build the thing back up. Clint is gone and nobody has been there ever since to take over. If any of you know an aspiring young SQL progammer that can build what Kathy needs for the PTG website send that person to her. I'm disappointed that she has not posted here to let everyone know what's going on but please give her some slack. She knows it's important and really is doing the best she can to get this all up and running again as fast as she knows how to do.

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    Geoff Sykes, RPT
    Los Angeles CA
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  • 20.  RE: Find a Tech

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-15-2022 07:38
    The irony of course is that for each of us, the basic data exists in the current software package. We wouldn't be able to log in here if it weren't. In the absence of the one person at the HO capable of getting the membership data installed in the new software package, the publisher should be able to help with the migration.

    I can't even find myself in the Members Directory.

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    William Ballard RPT
    WBPS
    Saxtons River VT
    802-869-9107

    "Our lives contain a thousand springs
    and dies if one be gone
    Strange that a harp of a thousand strings
    should keep in tune so long."
    ...........Dr. Watts, "The Continental Harmony,1774
    +++++++++++++++++++++
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  • 21.  RE: Find a Tech

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-15-2022 10:49
    Thanks Geoff,

    I'm not blaming anyone. Just indicating poor planning somewhere or something went wrong. Hopefully this will be a teaching moment for the HO. I was actually surprised the the discussion threads seemed to continue smoothly.

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    Tremaine Parsons RPT
    Georgetown CA
    (530) 333-9299
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  • 22.  RE: Find a Tech

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-15-2022 17:15
    Not everyone realizes that there are currently two companies that PTG works with for the website/forums/membership data/etc.  The forums and much of the my.ptg.org site are hosted by Higher Logic. The membership data was hosted my MemberMax and that is the company that has been replaced. I have never expected a lifespan of more than 10 years, if that long, with any of these companies given the nature of that industry. A key concern in going down this road was to be sure that our data is secure and is owned by us but being able to access it in a manner we want can be a greater challenge. 

    It's a challenging time for our staff as well as our volunteers so I'm sure they want these features back up and running as quickly as possible. I just got through looking up 3 referrals in the member database that would have been much quicker without scrolling through whole chapter lists so I'll be glad when it's back up but I'm just grateful, at this point, that I can still look things up.

    Maggie - I believe that the zip code and proximity search is the bugaboo in the programming that goes beyond basic database functions so you're absolutely right about that being a great function for the public as well as members; especially for folks in rural areas like us. 

    Folks, this isn't any sort of official statement that I'm giving you but just a report of conversations from this member. 

    Best regards to all,


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    Allan Gilreath, RPT
    Registered Piano Technician & President
    Allan Gilreath & Associates, Inc
    Calhoun, GA
    706-602-7667
    allan@allangilreath.com - www.allangilreath.com
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  • 23.  RE: Find a Tech

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-15-2022 21:58
    Thank you Allan,

    That was very helpful as an update. I was only aware of Higher Logic. Serves me right for not paying attention.

    Several years ago one of my hosting providers had a perfect storm in that a hard drive failed and at the same time the daily backup drive failed. They actually paid forensics and managed to get several MySql data bases back  to within a month of current. Stuff does happen and of course this is just another reason to echo "BACKUP!" to everyone.

    Maggie, I don't think we need to move this thread. I think it has about run it course. The HO is working this as a priority and anyone who jumps in will see all the threads.

    BTW, and I'll bet Maggie will agree. The default mile radius for "Find a Tech" should be 50 miles. This is only fair for RPT's that live rural. I drive 40 - 50 often.

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    Tremaine Parsons RPT
    Georgetown CA
    (530) 333-9299
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  • 24.  RE: Find a Tech

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-15-2022 08:51
    Hopefully each of you who have expressed your desire to have the "find a tech" function return, have expressed it directly to your representatives: President, Vice President, and Secretary-Treasurer, and respective Regional Vice President. 
    Online "complaints" tend to get ignored. Phone calls to the decision makers may make a greater impression.

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    Patrick Draine RPT
    Billerica MA
    (978) 663-9690
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  • 25.  RE: Find a Tech

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-15-2022 09:42
    The HO is aware of the problem and are working hard to fix it.  Because of the transfer, they've got their hands full. They are behind getting ready for the convention and processing registrations. Calling them to complain is not going to get the job done any sooner. It just takes away time for them to work on it. It's not something they did on purpose. Please give them a break. 





  • 26.  RE: Find a Tech

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 06-15-2022 18:06
    After being on the Communications Task Group for a year, I can say with great confidence that the User Help Group gets priority attention and that if anyone wants to communicate the fastest way possible to the correct people, that is probably it. If you to go anyone else on the board, it goes there next, so it might be wise to go there directly. 

    Having said that, should we move this thread there? I feel very silly at the moment for even posting here. I didn't think it through. lol

    Also, the problem is being worked on. It is not being ignored and is a high priority. Some things are different enough that it's not as simple as the moving of information from one place to another. This isn't accurate, but I imagine trying to open a Pages document on a PC, or a Word document in Pages, without the ability to call it a docx. 

    I hate it too, but hang in there.

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    Maggie Jusiel, RPT
    Athens, WV
    (304)952-8615
    mags@timandmaggie.net
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