Pianotech

PS: I have used Scott's Outdoor Cleaner, peroxide based, on my personal instruments with great success & with the mold either not returning at all or returning much later than with other products. I haven't used it on a good piano, though. 

Wim: Bleach has been proven to encourage mold growth in the long run on porous surfaces. Works great on non porous surfaces, though. 😉 

------------------------------
Maggie Jusiel, RPT
Athens, WV
(304)952-8615
mags@timandmaggie.net
------------------------------


Original Message:
Sent: 03-04-2023 08:26
From: Wim Blees
Subject: Help! Moldy Steinway D in concert hall with little time.

PPS! I JUST learned that grain alcohol can encourage growth with certain types of mold! Dag-nabbit!!! Back to other alcohols, peroxide & Scott's Outdoor Cleaner. I have used the latter on all kinds of surfaces, incliding books, various finishes, & raw fingerboards, without any discoloration. Also works on laundry. LOL! 

PPPS: I really hate mold. It's everywhere here. Sometimes you can even smell it outside when you get out of your car after breathing cleaner air through your car air filter. 😒  

------------------------------
Maggie Jusiel, RPT
Athens, WV
(304)952-8615
mags@timandmaggie.net
------------------------------


Original Message:
Sent: 03-04-2023 08:34
From: Maggie Jusiel
Subject: Help! Moldy Steinway D in concert hall with little time.

PS: I have used Scott's Outdoor Cleaner, peroxide based, on my personal instruments with great success & with the mold either not returning at all or returning much later than with other products. I haven't used it on a good piano, though. 

Wim: Bleach has been proven to encourage mold growth in the long run on porous surfaces. Works great on non porous surfaces, though. 😉 

------------------------------
Maggie Jusiel, RPT
Athens, WV
(304)952-8615
mags@timandmaggie.net
------------------------------

PPS! I JUST learned that grain alcohol can encourage growth with certain types of mold! Dag-nabbit!!! Back to other alcohols, peroxide & Scott's Outdoor Cleaner. I have used the latter on all kinds of surfaces, incliding books, various finishes, & raw fingerboards, without any discoloration. Also works on laundry. LOL! 

PPPS: I really hate mold. It's everywhere here. Sometimes you can even smell it outside when you get out of your car after breathing cleaner air through your car air filter. 😒  

------------------------------
Maggie Jusiel, RPT
Athens, WV
(304)952-8615
mags@timandmaggie.net
------------------------------


Original Message:
Sent: 03-04-2023 08:34
From: Maggie Jusiel
Subject: Help! Moldy Steinway D in concert hall with little time.

PS: I have used Scott's Outdoor Cleaner, peroxide based, on my personal instruments with great success & with the mold either not returning at all or returning much later than with other products. I haven't used it on a good piano, though. 

Wim: Bleach has been proven to encourage mold growth in the long run on porous surfaces. Works great on non porous surfaces, though. 😉 

------------------------------
Maggie Jusiel, RPT
Athens, WV
(304)952-8615
mags@timandmaggie.net


Original Message:
Sent: 03-04-2023 08:26
From: Wim Blees
Subject: Help! Moldy Steinway D in concert hall with little time.

I faced this situation at least a half dozen time. I would not touch it and would tell them to rent a piano for the event. The situation has been going on for months and they want it fixed two days prior to a concert by a stride pianist ? are you kidding me. ?  You are exposing yourself to a significant health hazard and it is highly likely there is black mold luring in the action, under the keys, on the beams. What exactly was the climate control system - was it a dampp chaser/piano life saver ? room dehumidifier ? This is very likely a hazardous removal situation that requires inspection by a mold inspection/testing company . Not only is the piano contaminated but the entire storage room may be filled with mold and mold spores. I condemned a piano that directly under a roof leak after visually black mold on the keysticks and in the action. A second Steinway grand was in a house where the electricity had been off for an entire year. We are on the coast of South Carolina where mold will thrive and take hold when there is a lack of air conditioning and the air is thick with humidity. The owner wanted to move the piano to her mothers assisted living home ! I insisted it was not safe and needed to be encapsulated and removed by trained mold techs wearing proper equipment .  

aLSO KEEP IN MIND THAT THE HIGH HUMIDITY HAS AFFECTED ALL OF THE GLUES AND FELTS , ACTION CENTERS,KEYS, BUSHINGS,PUNCHINGS, DAMPERS,PINBLOCK,STRINGS - 

I would write up a report , take tons of photos, take temp and rh readings and decline the job..... 

------------------------------
James Kelly
Owner- Fur Elise Piano Service
Pawleys Island SC
(843) 325-4357
------------------------------


Original Message:
Sent: 03-04-2023 09:15
From: Wim Blees
Subject: Help! Moldy Steinway D in concert hall with little time.

Original Message:
Sent: 3/4/2023 8:43:00 AM
From: Maggie Jusiel
Subject: RE: Help! Moldy Steinway D in concert hall with little time.

PPS! I JUST learned that grain alcohol can encourage growth with certain types of mold! Dag-nabbit!!! Back to other alcohols, peroxide & Scott's Outdoor Cleaner. I have used the latter on all kinds of surfaces, incliding books, various finishes, & raw fingerboards, without any discoloration. Also works on laundry. LOL! 

PPPS: I really hate mold. It's everywhere here. Sometimes you can even smell it outside when you get out of your car after breathing cleaner air through your car air filter. 😒  

------------------------------
Maggie Jusiel, RPT
Athens, WV
(304)952-8615
mags@timandmaggie.net


Original Message:
Sent: 03-04-2023 08:34
From: Maggie Jusiel
Subject: Help! Moldy Steinway D in concert hall with little time.

PS: I have used Scott's Outdoor Cleaner, peroxide based, on my personal instruments with great success & with the mold either not returning at all or returning much later than with other products. I haven't used it on a good piano, though. 

Wim: Bleach has been proven to encourage mold growth in the long run on porous surfaces. Works great on non porous surfaces, though. 😉 

------------------------------
Maggie Jusiel, RPT
Athens, WV
(304)952-8615
mags@timandmaggie.net


Original Message:
Sent: 03-04-2023 08:26
From: Wim Blees
Subject: Help! Moldy Steinway D in concert hall with little time.

I faced this situation at least a half dozen time. I would not touch it and would tell them to rent a piano for the event. The situation has been going on for months and they want it fixed two days prior to a concert by a stride pianist ? are you kidding me. ?  You are exposing yourself to a significant health hazard and it is highly likely there is black mold luring in the action, under the keys, on the beams. What exactly was the climate control system - was it a dampp chaser/piano life saver ? room dehumidifier ? This is very likely a hazardous removal situation that requires inspection by a mold inspection/testing company . Not only is the piano contaminated but the entire storage room may be filled with mold and mold spores. I condemned a piano that directly under a roof leak after visually black mold on the keysticks and in the action. A second Steinway grand was in a house where the electricity had been off for an entire year. We are on the coast of South Carolina where mold will thrive and take hold when there is a lack of air conditioning and the air is thick with humidity. The owner wanted to move the piano to her mothers assisted living home ! I insisted it was not safe and needed to be encapsulated and removed by trained mold techs wearing proper equipment .  

aLSO KEEP IN MIND THAT THE HIGH HUMIDITY HAS AFFECTED ALL OF THE GLUES AND FELTS , ACTION CENTERS,KEYS, BUSHINGS,PUNCHINGS, DAMPERS,PINBLOCK,STRINGS - 

I would write up a report , take tons of photos, take temp and rh readings and decline the job..... 

PPS! I JUST learned that grain alcohol can encourage growth with certain types of mold! Dag-nabbit!!! Back to other alcohols, peroxide & Scott's Outdoor Cleaner. I have used the latter on all kinds of surfaces, incliding books, various finishes, & raw fingerboards, without any discoloration. Also works on laundry. LOL! 

PPPS: I really hate mold. It's everywhere here. Sometimes you can even smell it outside when you get out of your car after breathing cleaner air through your car air filter. 😒  

------------------------------
Maggie Jusiel, RPT
Athens, WV
(304)952-8615
mags@timandmaggie.net
------------------------------


Original Message:
Sent: 03-04-2023 08:34
From: Maggie Jusiel
Subject: Help! Moldy Steinway D in concert hall with little time.

PS: I have used Scott's Outdoor Cleaner, peroxide based, on my personal instruments with great success & with the mold either not returning at all or returning much later than with other products. I haven't used it on a good piano, though. 

Wim: Bleach has been proven to encourage mold growth in the long run on porous surfaces. Works great on non porous surfaces, though. 😉 

------------------------------
Maggie Jusiel, RPT
Athens, WV
(304)952-8615
mags@timandmaggie.net

I faced this situation at least a half dozen time. I would not touch it and would tell them to rent a piano for the event. The situation has been going on for months and they want it fixed two days prior to a concert by a stride pianist ? are you kidding me. ?  You are exposing yourself to a significant health hazard and it is highly likely there is black mold luring in the action, under the keys, on the beams. What exactly was the climate control system - was it a dampp chaser/piano life saver ? room dehumidifier ? This is very likely a hazardous removal situation that requires inspection by a mold inspection/testing company . Not only is the piano contaminated but the entire storage room may be filled with mold and mold spores. I condemned a piano that directly under a roof leak after visually black mold on the keysticks and in the action. A second Steinway grand was in a house where the electricity had been off for an entire year. We are on the coast of South Carolina where mold will thrive and take hold when there is a lack of air conditioning and the air is thick with humidity. The owner wanted to move the piano to her mothers assisted living home ! I insisted it was not safe and needed to be encapsulated and removed by trained mold techs wearing proper equipment .  

aLSO KEEP IN MIND THAT THE HIGH HUMIDITY HAS AFFECTED ALL OF THE GLUES AND FELTS , ACTION CENTERS,KEYS, BUSHINGS,PUNCHINGS, DAMPERS,PINBLOCK,STRINGS - 

I would write up a report , take tons of photos, take temp and rh readings and decline the job..... 

PPS! I JUST learned that grain alcohol can encourage growth with certain types of mold! Dag-nabbit!!! Back to other alcohols, peroxide & Scott's Outdoor Cleaner. I have used the latter on all kinds of surfaces, incliding books, various finishes, & raw fingerboards, without any discoloration. Also works on laundry. LOL! 

PPPS: I really hate mold. It's everywhere here. Sometimes you can even smell it outside when you get out of your car after breathing cleaner air through your car air filter. 😒  

------------------------------
Maggie Jusiel, RPT
Athens, WV
(304)952-8615
mags@timandmaggie.net
------------------------------


Original Message:
Sent: 03-04-2023 08:34
From: Maggie Jusiel
Subject: Help! Moldy Steinway D in concert hall with little time.

PS: I have used Scott's Outdoor Cleaner, peroxide based, on my personal instruments with great success & with the mold either not returning at all or returning much later than with other products. I haven't used it on a good piano, though. 

Wim: Bleach has been proven to encourage mold growth in the long run on porous surfaces. Works great on non porous surfaces, though. 😉 

------------------------------
Maggie Jusiel, RPT
Athens, WV
(304)952-8615
mags@timandmaggie.net

I faced this situation at least a half dozen time. I would not touch it and would tell them to rent a piano for the event. The situation has been going on for months and they want it fixed two days prior to a concert by a stride pianist ? are you kidding me. ?  You are exposing yourself to a significant health hazard and it is highly likely there is black mold luring in the action, under the keys, on the beams. What exactly was the climate control system - was it a dampp chaser/piano life saver ? room dehumidifier ? This is very likely a hazardous removal situation that requires inspection by a mold inspection/testing company . Not only is the piano contaminated but the entire storage room may be filled with mold and mold spores. I condemned a piano that directly under a roof leak after visually black mold on the keysticks and in the action. A second Steinway grand was in a house where the electricity had been off for an entire year. We are on the coast of South Carolina where mold will thrive and take hold when there is a lack of air conditioning and the air is thick with humidity. The owner wanted to move the piano to her mothers assisted living home ! I insisted it was not safe and needed to be encapsulated and removed by trained mold techs wearing proper equipment .  

aLSO KEEP IN MIND THAT THE HIGH HUMIDITY HAS AFFECTED ALL OF THE GLUES AND FELTS , ACTION CENTERS,KEYS, BUSHINGS,PUNCHINGS, DAMPERS,PINBLOCK,STRINGS - 

I would write up a report , take tons of photos, take temp and rh readings and decline the job..... 

PPS! I JUST learned that grain alcohol can encourage growth with certain types of mold! Dag-nabbit!!! Back to other alcohols, peroxide & Scott's Outdoor Cleaner. I have used the latter on all kinds of surfaces, incliding books, various finishes, & raw fingerboards, without any discoloration. Also works on laundry. LOL! 

PPPS: I really hate mold. It's everywhere here. Sometimes you can even smell it outside when you get out of your car after breathing cleaner air through your car air filter. 😒  

------------------------------
Maggie Jusiel, RPT
Athens, WV
(304)952-8615
mags@timandmaggie.net
------------------------------

PPS! I JUST learned that grain alcohol can encourage growth with certain types of mold! Dag-nabbit!!! Back to other alcohols, peroxide & Scott's Outdoor Cleaner. I have used the latter on all kinds of surfaces, incliding books, various finishes, & raw fingerboards, without any discoloration. Also works on laundry. LOL! 

PPPS: I really hate mold. It's everywhere here. Sometimes you can even smell it outside when you get out of your car after breathing cleaner air through your car air filter. 😒  

------------------------------
Maggie Jusiel, RPT
Athens, WV
(304)952-8615
mags@timandmaggie.net
------------------------------

PPS! I JUST learned that grain alcohol can encourage growth with certain types of mold! Dag-nabbit!!! Back to other alcohols, peroxide & Scott's Outdoor Cleaner. I have used the latter on all kinds of surfaces, incliding books, various finishes, & raw fingerboards, without any discoloration. Also works on laundry. LOL! 

PPPS: I really hate mold. It's everywhere here. Sometimes you can even smell it outside when you get out of your car after breathing cleaner air through your car air filter. 😒  

------------------------------
Maggie Jusiel, RPT
Athens, WV
(304)952-8615
mags@timandmaggie.net
------------------------------


Original Message:
Sent: 03-04-2023 08:34
From: Maggie Jusiel
Subject: Help! Moldy Steinway D in concert hall with little time.

PS: I have used Scott's Outdoor Cleaner, peroxide based, on my personal instruments with great success & with the mold either not returning at all or returning much later than with other products. I haven't used it on a good piano, though. 

Wim: Bleach has been proven to encourage mold growth in the long run on porous surfaces. Works great on non porous surfaces, though. 😉 

------------------------------
Maggie Jusiel, RPT
Athens, WV
(304)952-8615
mags@timandmaggie.net


Original Message:
Sent: 03-04-2023 08:26
From: Wim Blees
Subject: Help! Moldy Steinway D in concert hall with little time.

I will repeat my message They need to rent. Using this instrument is too dangerous to everyone including you and the artist. I believe this artist played an outdoor concert here on a rented instrument . Every time the hammers move they will throw off mold spores. Who knows what will get released or transferred when you tune it , play test blows etc. When we had severe flooding of the rivers here away from the coast I did several inspections of pianos that had been in flooded homes. A large upright had so much moisture in the hammers that the mechanical moisture meters showed 100 % on the meter; same thing with the electronic digital meters. It had been in a moisture laden home where water had risen to the pedals and bottom board A grand piano in another town had been sitting in standing water halfway up the legs. 3/4 of the hammers had peeled off there cores and it too had high moisture readings in the action . each piano had little to no visible mold but it was probably starting. All new hammers shanks and flanges where installed but the customer did not want to go for whippens despite my recommendation to replace them All that moisture had really affected the action centers. Just lay it out and refuse to take the job 

PPS! I JUST learned that grain alcohol can encourage growth with certain types of mold! Dag-nabbit!!! Back to other alcohols, peroxide & Scott's Outdoor Cleaner. I have used the latter on all kinds of surfaces, incliding books, various finishes, & raw fingerboards, without any discoloration. Also works on laundry. LOL! 

PPPS: I really hate mold. It's everywhere here. Sometimes you can even smell it outside when you get out of your car after breathing cleaner air through your car air filter. 😒  

------------------------------
Maggie Jusiel, RPT
Athens, WV
(304)952-8615
mags@timandmaggie.net
------------------------------


Original Message:
Sent: 03-04-2023 08:34
From: Maggie Jusiel
Subject: Help! Moldy Steinway D in concert hall with little time.

PS: I have used Scott's Outdoor Cleaner, peroxide based, on my personal instruments with great success & with the mold either not returning at all or returning much later than with other products. I haven't used it on a good piano, though. 

Wim: Bleach has been proven to encourage mold growth in the long run on porous surfaces. Works great on non porous surfaces, though. 😉 

------------------------------
Maggie Jusiel, RPT
Athens, WV
(304)952-8615
mags@timandmaggie.net

--  Tim Edwards, Piano Technician 740-593-3998  Piano Tuning and Repair since 1977 timdepianoman@gmail.com

I will repeat my message They need to rent. Using this instrument is too dangerous to everyone including you and the artist. I believe this artist played an outdoor concert here on a rented instrument . Every time the hammers move they will throw off mold spores. Who knows what will get released or transferred when you tune it , play test blows etc. When we had severe flooding of the rivers here away from the coast I did several inspections of pianos that had been in flooded homes. A large upright had so much moisture in the hammers that the mechanical moisture meters showed 100 % on the meter; same thing with the electronic digital meters. It had been in a moisture laden home where water had risen to the pedals and bottom board A grand piano in another town had been sitting in standing water halfway up the legs. 3/4 of the hammers had peeled off there cores and it too had high moisture readings in the action . each piano had little to no visible mold but it was probably starting. All new hammers shanks and flanges where installed but the customer did not want to go for whippens despite my recommendation to replace them All that moisture had really affected the action centers. Just lay it out and refuse to take the job 

PPS! I JUST learned that grain alcohol can encourage growth with certain types of mold! Dag-nabbit!!! Back to other alcohols, peroxide & Scott's Outdoor Cleaner. I have used the latter on all kinds of surfaces, incliding books, various finishes, & raw fingerboards, without any discoloration. Also works on laundry. LOL! 

PPPS: I really hate mold. It's everywhere here. Sometimes you can even smell it outside when you get out of your car after breathing cleaner air through your car air filter. 😒  

------------------------------
Maggie Jusiel, RPT
Athens, WV
(304)952-8615
mags@timandmaggie.net


Original Message:
Sent: 03-04-2023 08:34
From: Maggie Jusiel
Subject: Help! Moldy Steinway D in concert hall with little time.

PS: I have used Scott's Outdoor Cleaner, peroxide based, on my personal instruments with great success & with the mold either not returning at all or returning much later than with other products. I haven't used it on a good piano, though. 

Wim: Bleach has been proven to encourage mold growth in the long run on porous surfaces. Works great on non porous surfaces, though. 😉 

------------------------------
Maggie Jusiel, RPT
Athens, WV
(304)952-8615
mags@timandmaggie.net


Original Message:
Sent: 03-04-2023 08:26
From: Wim Blees
Subject: Help! Moldy Steinway D in concert hall with little time.

Tim ... please decline the job regardless of what color mold it is . There are many types of mold and people have different sensitivites to them. There are many excellent web sites with pictures to help identify molds  and there are a variety of test kits as well. Most kits requiring samples that need to go to a lab . Given what you said, the piano has been severely compromised. The venue did not properly care for the instrument . I would bet that the artist would rather not play on the instrument. If it is in fact Judy Carmichael she was booked a year in advance when she played here so the venue should have had the instrument stored safely and monitored closely. You will be risking your health and the health of others. I would slap a big warning sign on it cautioning everyone not to play /clean/tune the instrument . Put caution tape across the fall board .Although the instrument was not in a flood situation there was guidance put out by the Australian Piano Technicians Guild on condemning flood exposed pianos 

--  Tim Edwards, Piano Technician 740-593-3998  Piano Tuning and Repair since 1977 timdepianoman@gmail.com

I will repeat my message They need to rent. Using this instrument is too dangerous to everyone including you and the artist. I believe this artist played an outdoor concert here on a rented instrument . Every time the hammers move they will throw off mold spores. Who knows what will get released or transferred when you tune it , play test blows etc. When we had severe flooding of the rivers here away from the coast I did several inspections of pianos that had been in flooded homes. A large upright had so much moisture in the hammers that the mechanical moisture meters showed 100 % on the meter; same thing with the electronic digital meters. It had been in a moisture laden home where water had risen to the pedals and bottom board A grand piano in another town had been sitting in standing water halfway up the legs. 3/4 of the hammers had peeled off there cores and it too had high moisture readings in the action . each piano had little to no visible mold but it was probably starting. All new hammers shanks and flanges where installed but the customer did not want to go for whippens despite my recommendation to replace them All that moisture had really affected the action centers. Just lay it out and refuse to take the job 

PPS! I JUST learned that grain alcohol can encourage growth with certain types of mold! Dag-nabbit!!! Back to other alcohols, peroxide & Scott's Outdoor Cleaner. I have used the latter on all kinds of surfaces, incliding books, various finishes, & raw fingerboards, without any discoloration. Also works on laundry. LOL! 

PPPS: I really hate mold. It's everywhere here. Sometimes you can even smell it outside when you get out of your car after breathing cleaner air through your car air filter. 😒  

------------------------------
Maggie Jusiel, RPT
Athens, WV
(304)952-8615
mags@timandmaggie.net


Original Message:
Sent: 03-04-2023 08:34
From: Maggie Jusiel
Subject: Help! Moldy Steinway D in concert hall with little time.

PS: I have used Scott's Outdoor Cleaner, peroxide based, on my personal instruments with great success & with the mold either not returning at all or returning much later than with other products. I haven't used it on a good piano, though. 

Wim: Bleach has been proven to encourage mold growth in the long run on porous surfaces. Works great on non porous surfaces, though. 😉 

------------------------------
Maggie Jusiel, RPT
Athens, WV
(304)952-8615
mags@timandmaggie.net

--  Tim Edwards, Piano Technician 740-593-3998  Piano Tuning and Repair since 1977 timdepianoman@gmail.com

Tim ... please decline the job regardless of what color mold it is . There are many types of mold and people have different sensitivites to them. There are many excellent web sites with pictures to help identify molds  and there are a variety of test kits as well. Most kits requiring samples that need to go to a lab . Given what you said, the piano has been severely compromised. The venue did not properly care for the instrument . I would bet that the artist would rather not play on the instrument. If it is in fact Judy Carmichael she was booked a year in advance when she played here so the venue should have had the instrument stored safely and monitored closely. You will be risking your health and the health of others. I would slap a big warning sign on it cautioning everyone not to play /clean/tune the instrument . Put caution tape across the fall board .Although the instrument was not in a flood situation there was guidance put out by the Australian Piano Technicians Guild on condemning flood exposed pianos 

--  Tim Edwards, Piano Technician 740-593-3998  Piano Tuning and Repair since 1977 timdepianoman@gmail.com

I will repeat my message They need to rent. Using this instrument is too dangerous to everyone including you and the artist. I believe this artist played an outdoor concert here on a rented instrument . Every time the hammers move they will throw off mold spores. Who knows what will get released or transferred when you tune it , play test blows etc. When we had severe flooding of the rivers here away from the coast I did several inspections of pianos that had been in flooded homes. A large upright had so much moisture in the hammers that the mechanical moisture meters showed 100 % on the meter; same thing with the electronic digital meters. It had been in a moisture laden home where water had risen to the pedals and bottom board A grand piano in another town had been sitting in standing water halfway up the legs. 3/4 of the hammers had peeled off there cores and it too had high moisture readings in the action . each piano had little to no visible mold but it was probably starting. All new hammers shanks and flanges where installed but the customer did not want to go for whippens despite my recommendation to replace them All that moisture had really affected the action centers. Just lay it out and refuse to take the job 

PPS! I JUST learned that grain alcohol can encourage growth with certain types of mold! Dag-nabbit!!! Back to other alcohols, peroxide & Scott's Outdoor Cleaner. I have used the latter on all kinds of surfaces, incliding books, various finishes, & raw fingerboards, without any discoloration. Also works on laundry. LOL! 

PPPS: I really hate mold. It's everywhere here. Sometimes you can even smell it outside when you get out of your car after breathing cleaner air through your car air filter. 😒  

------------------------------
Maggie Jusiel, RPT
Athens, WV
(304)952-8615
mags@timandmaggie.net

--  Tim Edwards, Piano Technician 740-593-3998  Piano Tuning and Repair since 1977 timdepianoman@gmail.com

Tim ... please decline the job regardless of what color mold it is . There are many types of mold and people have different sensitivites to them. There are many excellent web sites with pictures to help identify molds  and there are a variety of test kits as well. Most kits requiring samples that need to go to a lab . Given what you said, the piano has been severely compromised. The venue did not properly care for the instrument . I would bet that the artist would rather not play on the instrument. If it is in fact Judy Carmichael she was booked a year in advance when she played here so the venue should have had the instrument stored safely and monitored closely. You will be risking your health and the health of others. I would slap a big warning sign on it cautioning everyone not to play /clean/tune the instrument . Put caution tape across the fall board .Although the instrument was not in a flood situation there was guidance put out by the Australian Piano Technicians Guild on condemning flood exposed pianos 

--  Tim Edwards, Piano Technician 740-593-3998  Piano Tuning and Repair since 1977 timdepianoman@gmail.com

I will repeat my message They need to rent. Using this instrument is too dangerous to everyone including you and the artist. I believe this artist played an outdoor concert here on a rented instrument . Every time the hammers move they will throw off mold spores. Who knows what will get released or transferred when you tune it , play test blows etc. When we had severe flooding of the rivers here away from the coast I did several inspections of pianos that had been in flooded homes. A large upright had so much moisture in the hammers that the mechanical moisture meters showed 100 % on the meter; same thing with the electronic digital meters. It had been in a moisture laden home where water had risen to the pedals and bottom board A grand piano in another town had been sitting in standing water halfway up the legs. 3/4 of the hammers had peeled off there cores and it too had high moisture readings in the action . each piano had little to no visible mold but it was probably starting. All new hammers shanks and flanges where installed but the customer did not want to go for whippens despite my recommendation to replace them All that moisture had really affected the action centers. Just lay it out and refuse to take the job 

PPS! I JUST learned that grain alcohol can encourage growth with certain types of mold! Dag-nabbit!!! Back to other alcohols, peroxide & Scott's Outdoor Cleaner. I have used the latter on all kinds of surfaces, incliding books, various finishes, & raw fingerboards, without any discoloration. Also works on laundry. LOL! 

PPPS: I really hate mold. It's everywhere here. Sometimes you can even smell it outside when you get out of your car after breathing cleaner air through your car air filter. 😒  

------------------------------
Maggie Jusiel, RPT
Athens, WV
(304)952-8615
mags@timandmaggie.net

--  Tim Edwards, Piano Technician 740-593-3998  Piano Tuning and Repair since 1977 timdepianoman@gmail.com

Tim ... please decline the job regardless of what color mold it is . There are many types of mold and people have different sensitivites to them. There are many excellent web sites with pictures to help identify molds  and there are a variety of test kits as well. Most kits requiring samples that need to go to a lab . Given what you said, the piano has been severely compromised. The venue did not properly care for the instrument . I would bet that the artist would rather not play on the instrument. If it is in fact Judy Carmichael she was booked a year in advance when she played here so the venue should have had the instrument stored safely and monitored closely. You will be risking your health and the health of others. I would slap a big warning sign on it cautioning everyone not to play /clean/tune the instrument . Put caution tape across the fall board .Although the instrument was not in a flood situation there was guidance put out by the Australian Piano Technicians Guild on condemning flood exposed pianos 

--  Tim Edwards, Piano Technician 740-593-3998  Piano Tuning and Repair since 1977 timdepianoman@gmail.com

I will repeat my message They need to rent. Using this instrument is too dangerous to everyone including you and the artist. I believe this artist played an outdoor concert here on a rented instrument . Every time the hammers move they will throw off mold spores. Who knows what will get released or transferred when you tune it , play test blows etc. When we had severe flooding of the rivers here away from the coast I did several inspections of pianos that had been in flooded homes. A large upright had so much moisture in the hammers that the mechanical moisture meters showed 100 % on the meter; same thing with the electronic digital meters. It had been in a moisture laden home where water had risen to the pedals and bottom board A grand piano in another town had been sitting in standing water halfway up the legs. 3/4 of the hammers had peeled off there cores and it too had high moisture readings in the action . each piano had little to no visible mold but it was probably starting. All new hammers shanks and flanges where installed but the customer did not want to go for whippens despite my recommendation to replace them All that moisture had really affected the action centers. Just lay it out and refuse to take the job 

PPS! I JUST learned that grain alcohol can encourage growth with certain types of mold! Dag-nabbit!!! Back to other alcohols, peroxide & Scott's Outdoor Cleaner. I have used the latter on all kinds of surfaces, incliding books, various finishes, & raw fingerboards, without any discoloration. Also works on laundry. LOL! 

PPPS: I really hate mold. It's everywhere here. Sometimes you can even smell it outside when you get out of your car after breathing cleaner air through your car air filter. 😒  

------------------------------
Maggie Jusiel, RPT
Athens, WV
(304)952-8615
mags@timandmaggie.net


Original Message:
Sent: 03-04-2023 08:34
From: Maggie Jusiel
Subject: Help! Moldy Steinway D in concert hall with little time.

PS: I have used Scott's Outdoor Cleaner, peroxide based, on my personal instruments with great success & with the mold either not returning at all or returning much later than with other products. I haven't used it on a good piano, though. 

Wim: Bleach has been proven to encourage mold growth in the long run on porous surfaces. Works great on non porous surfaces, though. 😉 

------------------------------
Maggie Jusiel, RPT
Athens, WV
(304)952-8615
mags@timandmaggie.net


Original Message:
Sent: 03-04-2023 08:26
From: Wim Blees
Subject: Help! Moldy Steinway D in concert hall with little time.

If you do end up cleaning it yourself.

I would try TSP to remove the mold.

And Borax to prevent the mold from coming back.

Both can usually be bought from a hardware store.

Wear goggles, gloves and a respirator.

--  Tim Edwards, Piano Technician 740-593-3998  Piano Tuning and Repair since 1977 timdepianoman@gmail.com

Tim ... please decline the job regardless of what color mold it is . There are many types of mold and people have different sensitivites to them. There are many excellent web sites with pictures to help identify molds  and there are a variety of test kits as well. Most kits requiring samples that need to go to a lab . Given what you said, the piano has been severely compromised. The venue did not properly care for the instrument . I would bet that the artist would rather not play on the instrument. If it is in fact Judy Carmichael she was booked a year in advance when she played here so the venue should have had the instrument stored safely and monitored closely. You will be risking your health and the health of others. I would slap a big warning sign on it cautioning everyone not to play /clean/tune the instrument . Put caution tape across the fall board .Although the instrument was not in a flood situation there was guidance put out by the Australian Piano Technicians Guild on condemning flood exposed pianos 

--  Tim Edwards, Piano Technician 740-593-3998  Piano Tuning and Repair since 1977 timdepianoman@gmail.com

I will repeat my message They need to rent. Using this instrument is too dangerous to everyone including you and the artist. I believe this artist played an outdoor concert here on a rented instrument . Every time the hammers move they will throw off mold spores. Who knows what will get released or transferred when you tune it , play test blows etc. When we had severe flooding of the rivers here away from the coast I did several inspections of pianos that had been in flooded homes. A large upright had so much moisture in the hammers that the mechanical moisture meters showed 100 % on the meter; same thing with the electronic digital meters. It had been in a moisture laden home where water had risen to the pedals and bottom board A grand piano in another town had been sitting in standing water halfway up the legs. 3/4 of the hammers had peeled off there cores and it too had high moisture readings in the action . each piano had little to no visible mold but it was probably starting. All new hammers shanks and flanges where installed but the customer did not want to go for whippens despite my recommendation to replace them All that moisture had really affected the action centers. Just lay it out and refuse to take the job 

PPS! I JUST learned that grain alcohol can encourage growth with certain types of mold! Dag-nabbit!!! Back to other alcohols, peroxide & Scott's Outdoor Cleaner. I have used the latter on all kinds of surfaces, incliding books, various finishes, & raw fingerboards, without any discoloration. Also works on laundry. LOL! 

PPPS: I really hate mold. It's everywhere here. Sometimes you can even smell it outside when you get out of your car after breathing cleaner air through your car air filter. 😒  

------------------------------
Maggie Jusiel, RPT
Athens, WV
(304)952-8615
mags@timandmaggie.net


Original Message:
Sent: 03-04-2023 08:34
From: Maggie Jusiel
Subject: Help! Moldy Steinway D in concert hall with little time.

PS: I have used Scott's Outdoor Cleaner, peroxide based, on my personal instruments with great success & with the mold either not returning at all or returning much later than with other products. I haven't used it on a good piano, though. 

Wim: Bleach has been proven to encourage mold growth in the long run on porous surfaces. Works great on non porous surfaces, though. 😉 

------------------------------
Maggie Jusiel, RPT
Athens, WV
(304)952-8615
mags@timandmaggie.net

--  Tim Edwards, Piano Technician 740-593-3998  Piano Tuning and Repair since 1977 timdepianoman@gmail.com

If you do end up cleaning it yourself.

I would try TSP to remove the mold.

And Borax to prevent the mold from coming back.

Both can usually be bought from a hardware store.

Wear goggles, gloves and a respirator.

--  Tim Edwards, Piano Technician 740-593-3998  Piano Tuning and Repair since 1977 timdepianoman@gmail.com

Tim ... please decline the job regardless of what color mold it is . There are many types of mold and people have different sensitivites to them. There are many excellent web sites with pictures to help identify molds  and there are a variety of test kits as well. Most kits requiring samples that need to go to a lab . Given what you said, the piano has been severely compromised. The venue did not properly care for the instrument . I would bet that the artist would rather not play on the instrument. If it is in fact Judy Carmichael she was booked a year in advance when she played here so the venue should have had the instrument stored safely and monitored closely. You will be risking your health and the health of others. I would slap a big warning sign on it cautioning everyone not to play /clean/tune the instrument . Put caution tape across the fall board .Although the instrument was not in a flood situation there was guidance put out by the Australian Piano Technicians Guild on condemning flood exposed pianos 

--  Tim Edwards, Piano Technician 740-593-3998  Piano Tuning and Repair since 1977 timdepianoman@gmail.com

I will repeat my message They need to rent. Using this instrument is too dangerous to everyone including you and the artist. I believe this artist played an outdoor concert here on a rented instrument . Every time the hammers move they will throw off mold spores. Who knows what will get released or transferred when you tune it , play test blows etc. When we had severe flooding of the rivers here away from the coast I did several inspections of pianos that had been in flooded homes. A large upright had so much moisture in the hammers that the mechanical moisture meters showed 100 % on the meter; same thing with the electronic digital meters. It had been in a moisture laden home where water had risen to the pedals and bottom board A grand piano in another town had been sitting in standing water halfway up the legs. 3/4 of the hammers had peeled off there cores and it too had high moisture readings in the action . each piano had little to no visible mold but it was probably starting. All new hammers shanks and flanges where installed but the customer did not want to go for whippens despite my recommendation to replace them All that moisture had really affected the action centers. Just lay it out and refuse to take the job 

PPS! I JUST learned that grain alcohol can encourage growth with certain types of mold! Dag-nabbit!!! Back to other alcohols, peroxide & Scott's Outdoor Cleaner. I have used the latter on all kinds of surfaces, incliding books, various finishes, & raw fingerboards, without any discoloration. Also works on laundry. LOL! 

PPPS: I really hate mold. It's everywhere here. Sometimes you can even smell it outside when you get out of your car after breathing cleaner air through your car air filter. 😒  

------------------------------
Maggie Jusiel, RPT
Athens, WV
(304)952-8615
mags@timandmaggie.net

--  Tim Edwards, Piano Technician 740-593-3998  Piano Tuning and Repair since 1977 timdepianoman@gmail.com

I will repeat my message They need to rent. Using this instrument is too dangerous to everyone including you and the artist. I believe this artist played an outdoor concert here on a rented instrument . Every time the hammers move they will throw off mold spores. Who knows what will get released or transferred when you tune it , play test blows etc. When we had severe flooding of the rivers here away from the coast I did several inspections of pianos that had been in flooded homes. A large upright had so much moisture in the hammers that the mechanical moisture meters showed 100 % on the meter; same thing with the electronic digital meters. It had been in a moisture laden home where water had risen to the pedals and bottom board A grand piano in another town had been sitting in standing water halfway up the legs. 3/4 of the hammers had peeled off there cores and it too had high moisture readings in the action . each piano had little to no visible mold but it was probably starting. All new hammers shanks and flanges where installed but the customer did not want to go for whippens despite my recommendation to replace them All that moisture had really affected the action centers. Just lay it out and refuse to take the job 

PPS! I JUST learned that grain alcohol can encourage growth with certain types of mold! Dag-nabbit!!! Back to other alcohols, peroxide & Scott's Outdoor Cleaner. I have used the latter on all kinds of surfaces, incliding books, various finishes, & raw fingerboards, without any discoloration. Also works on laundry. LOL! 

PPPS: I really hate mold. It's everywhere here. Sometimes you can even smell it outside when you get out of your car after breathing cleaner air through your car air filter. 😒  

------------------------------
Maggie Jusiel, RPT
Athens, WV
(304)952-8615
mags@timandmaggie.net


Original Message:
Sent: 03-04-2023 08:34
From: Maggie Jusiel
Subject: Help! Moldy Steinway D in concert hall with little time.

PS: I have used Scott's Outdoor Cleaner, peroxide based, on my personal instruments with great success & with the mold either not returning at all or returning much later than with other products. I haven't used it on a good piano, though. 

Wim: Bleach has been proven to encourage mold growth in the long run on porous surfaces. Works great on non porous surfaces, though. 😉 

------------------------------
Maggie Jusiel, RPT
Athens, WV
(304)952-8615
mags@timandmaggie.net


Original Message:
Sent: 03-04-2023 08:26
From: Wim Blees
Subject: Help! Moldy Steinway D in concert hall with little time.

Tim, 

I am not as experienced as many here with mold, but I will add my two cents.  I have tuned my fair share of musty pianos, being in central NC and having fairly high humidity to deal with a lot of the time.

But there is one memory that sticks out to me regarding the dangers of tuning moldy pianos.
I was tuning for an elderly woman and her childhood piano.  I opened it up and the hammers were evenly and completely lined with lightly fuzzy white mold.  I thought the same as you - well, this isn't the dangerous kind so I guess I will proceed with the tuning.
I have asthma, well-controlled, only flares up when I am sick and have allergy issues (seasonal environmental allergies) - I wouldn't classify it as severe.
Halfway through the bass my lungs started to protest, and by the midway point of the pitch correction I had to take my emergency inhaler because I was starting to have trouble breathing.
I hardly ever take that inhaler - maybe 3-4 times a year.  Thankfully I had a good quality mask in my car, and i wore that for the duration of the tuning.
If asked, I would not tune that piano again.  And it has made me think twice about a few pianos since.

We never know what health conditions a pianist may or may not have, and asthma is very common.  If you need to share this anecdote with the concert venue as a reason for caution, I don't mind.
Mold is so dangerous and I fear that we often underestimate the white and green versions.

I hope it goes okay and that they will listen and respect your expertise!
All the best, 

- Hannah J. 

--  Tim Edwards, Piano Technician 740-593-3998  Piano Tuning and Repair since 1977 timdepianoman@gmail.com

I will repeat my message They need to rent. Using this instrument is too dangerous to everyone including you and the artist. I believe this artist played an outdoor concert here on a rented instrument . Every time the hammers move they will throw off mold spores. Who knows what will get released or transferred when you tune it , play test blows etc. When we had severe flooding of the rivers here away from the coast I did several inspections of pianos that had been in flooded homes. A large upright had so much moisture in the hammers that the mechanical moisture meters showed 100 % on the meter; same thing with the electronic digital meters. It had been in a moisture laden home where water had risen to the pedals and bottom board A grand piano in another town had been sitting in standing water halfway up the legs. 3/4 of the hammers had peeled off there cores and it too had high moisture readings in the action . each piano had little to no visible mold but it was probably starting. All new hammers shanks and flanges where installed but the customer did not want to go for whippens despite my recommendation to replace them All that moisture had really affected the action centers. Just lay it out and refuse to take the job 

PPS! I JUST learned that grain alcohol can encourage growth with certain types of mold! Dag-nabbit!!! Back to other alcohols, peroxide & Scott's Outdoor Cleaner. I have used the latter on all kinds of surfaces, incliding books, various finishes, & raw fingerboards, without any discoloration. Also works on laundry. LOL! 

PPPS: I really hate mold. It's everywhere here. Sometimes you can even smell it outside when you get out of your car after breathing cleaner air through your car air filter. 😒  

------------------------------
Maggie Jusiel, RPT
Athens, WV
(304)952-8615
mags@timandmaggie.net


Original Message:
Sent: 03-04-2023 08:34
From: Maggie Jusiel
Subject: Help! Moldy Steinway D in concert hall with little time.

PS: I have used Scott's Outdoor Cleaner, peroxide based, on my personal instruments with great success & with the mold either not returning at all or returning much later than with other products. I haven't used it on a good piano, though. 

Wim: Bleach has been proven to encourage mold growth in the long run on porous surfaces. Works great on non porous surfaces, though. 😉 

------------------------------
Maggie Jusiel, RPT
Athens, WV
(304)952-8615
mags@timandmaggie.net


Original Message:
Sent: 03-04-2023 08:26
From: Wim Blees
Subject: Help! Moldy Steinway D in concert hall with little time.

The last two posts should convince you to step away. Recommend a rental, take pictures, write a report. Yes we all feel an attachment to loyal customers but your health and the health of others is more important. Even if you could treat the visible mold too much is unknown. I am willing to bet that many things in this piano are compromised especially hammer felt glue joints, keys, whippens, perhaps rusted strings, tight damper guide rail bushings. If the pianist puts the piano through its paces it will be sending spores all over the venue and hammers are likely to unravel. This piano is an insurance claim . The venue should have had a better system, of monitoring with alarms, weekly inspections, preventive maintenance. I have had several church clients that neglected their C7 Yamahas . Two cases involved underpowered , old ac equipment. Another church shut off the ac in the summer for 3 months to pull up and replace the carpets. A church had brrn hit by a lightening bolt on the steeple and wiring throughout got fried. To save money they hired a handman who replaced the ac thermostat with an off/on switch. Carpet , seating, instruments including the C7 suffered big time. Many choir members got sick from the mold and dampness. I had to put a new top stack in and major work mating hammers, papering flanges, regulation, easing keys. 

Tim, 

I am not as experienced as many here with mold, but I will add my two cents.  I have tuned my fair share of musty pianos, being in central NC and having fairly high humidity to deal with a lot of the time.

But there is one memory that sticks out to me regarding the dangers of tuning moldy pianos.
I was tuning for an elderly woman and her childhood piano.  I opened it up and the hammers were evenly and completely lined with lightly fuzzy white mold.  I thought the same as you - well, this isn't the dangerous kind so I guess I will proceed with the tuning.
I have asthma, well-controlled, only flares up when I am sick and have allergy issues (seasonal environmental allergies) - I wouldn't classify it as severe.
Halfway through the bass my lungs started to protest, and by the midway point of the pitch correction I had to take my emergency inhaler because I was starting to have trouble breathing.
I hardly ever take that inhaler - maybe 3-4 times a year.  Thankfully I had a good quality mask in my car, and i wore that for the duration of the tuning.
If asked, I would not tune that piano again.  And it has made me think twice about a few pianos since.

We never know what health conditions a pianist may or may not have, and asthma is very common.  If you need to share this anecdote with the concert venue as a reason for caution, I don't mind.
Mold is so dangerous and I fear that we often underestimate the white and green versions.

I hope it goes okay and that they will listen and respect your expertise!
All the best, 

- Hannah J. 

--  Tim Edwards, Piano Technician 740-593-3998  Piano Tuning and Repair since 1977 timdepianoman@gmail.com

I will repeat my message They need to rent. Using this instrument is too dangerous to everyone including you and the artist. I believe this artist played an outdoor concert here on a rented instrument . Every time the hammers move they will throw off mold spores. Who knows what will get released or transferred when you tune it , play test blows etc. When we had severe flooding of the rivers here away from the coast I did several inspections of pianos that had been in flooded homes. A large upright had so much moisture in the hammers that the mechanical moisture meters showed 100 % on the meter; same thing with the electronic digital meters. It had been in a moisture laden home where water had risen to the pedals and bottom board A grand piano in another town had been sitting in standing water halfway up the legs. 3/4 of the hammers had peeled off there cores and it too had high moisture readings in the action . each piano had little to no visible mold but it was probably starting. All new hammers shanks and flanges where installed but the customer did not want to go for whippens despite my recommendation to replace them All that moisture had really affected the action centers. Just lay it out and refuse to take the job 

PPS! I JUST learned that grain alcohol can encourage growth with certain types of mold! Dag-nabbit!!! Back to other alcohols, peroxide & Scott's Outdoor Cleaner. I have used the latter on all kinds of surfaces, incliding books, various finishes, & raw fingerboards, without any discoloration. Also works on laundry. LOL! 

PPPS: I really hate mold. It's everywhere here. Sometimes you can even smell it outside when you get out of your car after breathing cleaner air through your car air filter. 😒  

------------------------------
Maggie Jusiel, RPT
Athens, WV
(304)952-8615
mags@timandmaggie.net


Original Message:
Sent: 03-04-2023 08:34
From: Maggie Jusiel
Subject: Help! Moldy Steinway D in concert hall with little time.

PS: I have used Scott's Outdoor Cleaner, peroxide based, on my personal instruments with great success & with the mold either not returning at all or returning much later than with other products. I haven't used it on a good piano, though. 

Wim: Bleach has been proven to encourage mold growth in the long run on porous surfaces. Works great on non porous surfaces, though. 😉 

------------------------------
Maggie Jusiel, RPT
Athens, WV
(304)952-8615
mags@timandmaggie.net


Original Message:
Sent: 03-04-2023 08:26
From: Wim Blees
Subject: Help! Moldy Steinway D in concert hall with little time.

The venue would putting you and others at risk if they insist on going through with this. The professional thing to do is advise and decline. 

The last two posts should convince you to step away. Recommend a rental, take pictures, write a report. Yes we all feel an attachment to loyal customers but your health and the health of others is more important. Even if you could treat the visible mold too much is unknown. I am willing to bet that many things in this piano are compromised especially hammer felt glue joints, keys, whippens, perhaps rusted strings, tight damper guide rail bushings. If the pianist puts the piano through its paces it will be sending spores all over the venue and hammers are likely to unravel. This piano is an insurance claim . The venue should have had a better system, of monitoring with alarms, weekly inspections, preventive maintenance. I have had several church clients that neglected their C7 Yamahas . Two cases involved underpowered , old ac equipment. Another church shut off the ac in the summer for 3 months to pull up and replace the carpets. A church had brrn hit by a lightening bolt on the steeple and wiring throughout got fried. To save money they hired a handman who replaced the ac thermostat with an off/on switch. Carpet , seating, instruments including the C7 suffered big time. Many choir members got sick from the mold and dampness. I had to put a new top stack in and major work mating hammers, papering flanges, regulation, easing keys. 

Tim, 

I am not as experienced as many here with mold, but I will add my two cents.  I have tuned my fair share of musty pianos, being in central NC and having fairly high humidity to deal with a lot of the time.

But there is one memory that sticks out to me regarding the dangers of tuning moldy pianos.
I was tuning for an elderly woman and her childhood piano.  I opened it up and the hammers were evenly and completely lined with lightly fuzzy white mold.  I thought the same as you - well, this isn't the dangerous kind so I guess I will proceed with the tuning.
I have asthma, well-controlled, only flares up when I am sick and have allergy issues (seasonal environmental allergies) - I wouldn't classify it as severe.
Halfway through the bass my lungs started to protest, and by the midway point of the pitch correction I had to take my emergency inhaler because I was starting to have trouble breathing.
I hardly ever take that inhaler - maybe 3-4 times a year.  Thankfully I had a good quality mask in my car, and i wore that for the duration of the tuning.
If asked, I would not tune that piano again.  And it has made me think twice about a few pianos since.

We never know what health conditions a pianist may or may not have, and asthma is very common.  If you need to share this anecdote with the concert venue as a reason for caution, I don't mind.
Mold is so dangerous and I fear that we often underestimate the white and green versions.

I hope it goes okay and that they will listen and respect your expertise!
All the best, 

- Hannah J. 

--  Tim Edwards, Piano Technician 740-593-3998  Piano Tuning and Repair since 1977 timdepianoman@gmail.com

I will repeat my message They need to rent. Using this instrument is too dangerous to everyone including you and the artist. I believe this artist played an outdoor concert here on a rented instrument . Every time the hammers move they will throw off mold spores. Who knows what will get released or transferred when you tune it , play test blows etc. When we had severe flooding of the rivers here away from the coast I did several inspections of pianos that had been in flooded homes. A large upright had so much moisture in the hammers that the mechanical moisture meters showed 100 % on the meter; same thing with the electronic digital meters. It had been in a moisture laden home where water had risen to the pedals and bottom board A grand piano in another town had been sitting in standing water halfway up the legs. 3/4 of the hammers had peeled off there cores and it too had high moisture readings in the action . each piano had little to no visible mold but it was probably starting. All new hammers shanks and flanges where installed but the customer did not want to go for whippens despite my recommendation to replace them All that moisture had really affected the action centers. Just lay it out and refuse to take the job 

PPS! I JUST learned that grain alcohol can encourage growth with certain types of mold! Dag-nabbit!!! Back to other alcohols, peroxide & Scott's Outdoor Cleaner. I have used the latter on all kinds of surfaces, incliding books, various finishes, & raw fingerboards, without any discoloration. Also works on laundry. LOL! 

PPPS: I really hate mold. It's everywhere here. Sometimes you can even smell it outside when you get out of your car after breathing cleaner air through your car air filter. 😒  

------------------------------
Maggie Jusiel, RPT
Athens, WV
(304)952-8615
mags@timandmaggie.net


Original Message:
Sent: 03-04-2023 08:34
From: Maggie Jusiel
Subject: Help! Moldy Steinway D in concert hall with little time.

PS: I have used Scott's Outdoor Cleaner, peroxide based, on my personal instruments with great success & with the mold either not returning at all or returning much later than with other products. I haven't used it on a good piano, though. 

Wim: Bleach has been proven to encourage mold growth in the long run on porous surfaces. Works great on non porous surfaces, though. 😉 

------------------------------
Maggie Jusiel, RPT
Athens, WV
(304)952-8615
mags@timandmaggie.net


Original Message:
Sent: 03-04-2023 08:26
From: Wim Blees
Subject: Help! Moldy Steinway D in concert hall with little time.