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Tuner - the movie

  • 1.  Tuner - the movie

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 20 days ago

    I had the pleasure of seeing this movie last night. It's quite good. It's actually a very well played robbery/heist story with piano service holding it together. And "Tuner" is just the nickname of the main character. I really appreciated and enjoyed the parts that involved actual service, and even more so, they way the main character reacts and relates to his customers in all the different environments he is called to work in. Much of what he says to his customers is very close to what I say to my customers so the writers did their research. The only tuning that he provides in the film is limited to perhaps a final touch up of a unison, and that's pretty much as deep as it gets, technically. The robbery sequences got quite intense at times, and were well done and fun. One thing I especially appreciated is that it was not a Steinway product placement film. In fact I don't think a Steinway is anywhere in the film except when it is casually mentioned at the very end. I recommend it because it's well done, entertaining and the tuning/tech sequences spoke my language. 

    Here is the trailer...

    https://youtu.be/xjTHWH52gI4 



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    Geoff Sykes, RPT
    Los Angeles CA
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  • 2.  RE: Tuner - the movie

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 19 days ago
    Geoff,

    We saw Tuner tonight. Peter White is listed as the “Piano Consultant”. He and I were in Laroy Edwards last PPSS ( performance piano service seminar), a one week training given by Yamaha in Buena Park. Wayne Ferguson is listed as the “on set piano tuner”. Wayne was with Dustin Hoffman the cast and director for the opening last week in NYC. They got many things right about piano tuners.

    It was a tense caper movie that was a lot of fun. There were numerous glaring plot problems. We can all relate to clients asking us to fix problems with their routers or other devices. After all, we’ll try to fix stuff cause we’re piano tuners.

    All of us will enjoy the film.

    Carl Lieberman
    Sent from my iPad
    CarlPianoTech.com




  • 3.  RE: Tuner - the movie

    Posted 19 days ago

    Quiz: What successful Broadway musical featured a piano tuner? (You can use AI, but that would be cheating!)



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    Philip Jamison
    West Chester PA
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  • 4.  RE: Tuner - the movie

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 19 days ago
    Our Town?
    Nancy Salmon, RPT





  • 5.  RE: Tuner - the movie

    Posted 19 days ago
    Nope.





  • 6.  RE: Tuner - the movie

    Posted 18 days ago

    Only one guess? I suspect tuners of a several previous generations spoke of this show. It was "Irene," a Broadway musical premiering in 1919 and often revived and re-worked, including in 1973 when it started Debbie Reynolds in her first Broadway role. Oh, and she was a piano tuner. 



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    Philip Jamison
    West Chester PA
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  • 7.  RE: Tuner - the movie

    Posted 15 days ago
    The June 8th New Yorker (page 10) has a nice little article on "Tuner" where Jane Bua interviews actor Leo Woodall and tuner Kevin Busse. It's titled "An Auditory Person."





  • 8.  RE: Tuner - the movie

    Member
    Posted 2 days ago

    My Wife and I also enjoyed "Tuner", it was a lot of fun.

    I can also recommend another piano-centric film, "Piano to Zanskar".  Not a heist flick, but rather an ultimate piano moving expedition.  

    Here is a trailer:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37VkJSdmvSE

    Note that as far as I know it is only available on Amazon Prime.



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    John Nicolson
    Evanston IL
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  • 9.  RE: Tuner - the movie

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 19 days ago
    Anyone up for a Journal movie review? Andrea and I typically cover movies, but we’d welcome outside movie or book reviews.
    Scott




  • 10.  RE: Tuner - the movie

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 19 days ago

    Good to see PTG members contributing to the film industry.

    Now the rest of us may need background checks so clients don't wonder if their piano technician is a thief in disguise.

    A few months ago, a client told me she discovered her previous tuner was in jail... true story.



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    Elisha Katamura RPT
    Katamura Piano Service
    Fresno, CA
    (559)765-7373
    https://www.katamurapianoservice.com/
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  • 11.  RE: Tuner - the movie

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 19 days ago

    A few days after I'd done a 'free' tuning for the local dealer, he got a call from the customer accusing me of stealing felt out of the piano. It was the temperament strip.



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    Steven Rosenthal RPT
    Honolulu HI
    (808) 521-7129
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  • 12.  RE: Tuner - the movie

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 19 days ago

    I'm already feeling the plot points for Tuner Two Too.  Tuners throughout the country + share experiences and AI reads through it all and makes the story.  So many possibilities:
    - illegal ivory trade
    - concert grand being moved into an upper story of 111 West 57th: 
    Steinway Tower (111 West 57th Street): Known as the world's skinniest skyscraper, it boasts an extreme 24:1 height-to-width ratio. Reaching 1,428 feet, it is built atop the historic 1925 Steinway Hall.
    etc.
    This could be the beginning of a major franchise.  

    But seriously, I'm a serious skeptic but I'll refrain until I actually see it.



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    David Skolnik [RPT]
    Hastings-on-Hudson NY
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  • 13.  RE: Tuner - the movie

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 18 days ago

    A friend told a story of leaving his temperament strip in the piano at a customer's house. When he called them to retrieve it, they told him "the piano sounds so much better since you removed the piece of felt, we threw it away" Lol.

    There's a million funny stories in our business!

    Best wishes!



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    Eugene Taets RPT
    Silvis IL
    (309) 796-2888
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  • 14.  RE: Tuner - the movie

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 19 days ago

    Glad you enjoyed the movie Mr. Sykes.

    Were you equally happy that it wasn't a Yamaha, Kawai, Fazioli, Bosendorfer or Mason & Hamlin product placement film? 



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    Karl Roeder
    Pompano Beach FL
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  • 15.  RE: Tuner - the movie

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 18 days ago

    Karl --

    Yes, I was. To me, the pianos shown in the movie appeared to be whatever was already in the location they were shooting at. Some were old. Some were new(ish). No effort was made to either hide or emphasize piano name. The movie had a well rounded collection of pianos, in locations that they appeared to have probably been in for years. (But then, movies are good at this kind of deception.) Much like the vast variety we experience in our service calls. The piano's Niki was working on were not important. It was his approach, skill, and his ability to communicate about the work he was doing that was important. 

    It might be interesting to get Peter White's, (member LA Chapter), take on this as he was the piano consultant for the film. 



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    Geoff Sykes, RPT
    Los Angeles CA
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  • 16.  RE: Tuner - the movie

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 17 days ago

    I saw the movie this past weekend with a friend who is not a piano technician, nor musician.

    PLUSES:

    Most of the pianos that I saw were Yamahas and that made my heart happy

    The technical presentation of our work was quite good; surprisingly so. I was expecting to be disappointed on that front but was delighted not to be distracted by 'errors'. The only thing that gave me pause was when he worked on a piano that had recent water damage and he had the drying keys spread out all over the floor. There could be excuses for that: free job for a pretty girl, small NYC apartment with no space for action parts, dramatic effect. It was forgivable.

    The variety of work environments that they found themselves in felt very realistic.

    My friend really liked the movie. I was happy to have seen it but might have been a bit disappointed if it didn't have anything to do with how I spend my days.

    MINUSES:

    There were some plot flaws, as noted by Carl, that distracted me. But mostly that's my problem since I complain about plot flaws in many things that I watch.  (The plot flaws having to do with what it takes to get away with a crime, which the criminals seemed not to be too concerned about.)

    It being a 'caper', it was a little silly. But that's my problem too. If you like capers and can ignore storyline issues, then it was charming.

    Regarding the request to write an article review of the movie, if there are no takers, perhaps you could just toggle together quotes from this thread? (I winced when I read the request for an article because every summer during convention, I make a new resolution to write an article for the Journal. And then I promptly forget as I get busy with financial concerns, administrative minutia, newlywed relationship development, etc. I have written a new sticky note to remind myself to write an article for the Journal!)

    Love to All,

    Ashley 



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    Ashley Turner
    Ashburn, VA
    703-657-9404
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  • 17.  RE: Tuner - the movie

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 16 days ago
    Other than the main character being a piano tuner, which was, as other have said, played true to form, both my wife and I didn't like the movie, primarily because we're just into that kind of movie. It was too violent for our taste. There was, however, some great music performed. 

    Just my take.

    Wim







  • 18.  RE: Tuner - the movie

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 16 days ago

    How about Morgan Freeman as a blind piano tuner?



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    Larry Messerly, RPT
    Bringing Harmony to Homes
    www.lacrossepianotuning.com
    ljmesserly@gmail.com
    928-899-7292
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  • 19.  RE: Tuner - the movie

    Posted 15 days ago
    Last night was the final showing at the nearest place . . . 

    The word Steinway was mentioned, once, possibly twice. Did anyone actually catch what the composer said excusing himself for having a Yamaha?

    The violence was at a level which made me uncomfortable - but made a good story and would have made the film disappointing for some without it. (Perhaps also this is why audiences actually enjoy the stronger unequal temperaments - the film certainly wasn't bland).

    On the tuning level, I wasn't aware of him touching any other than a mid octave note . . . and am not sure that I heard any movement of any string at all ;-)

    However it put the piano on the map. It put tuning on the map. And Yamaha particularly. . . . !

    Best wishes

    David P


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  • 20.  RE: Tuner - the movie

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 15 days ago

    David --

    > Did anyone actually catch what the composer said excusing himself for having a Yamaha?

    At the end of Tuner, the Maestro, when very quickly explaining why he has a Yamaha, expresses his disdain for Steinway by suggesting that their pianos are more like furniture than true instruments of art.



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    Geoff Sykes, RPT
    Los Angeles CA
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  • 21.  RE: Tuner - the movie

    Posted 15 days ago
    WOW! He said it so quickly I really didn't catch it . . . You were on the ball to say the least!

    Best wishes

    David P


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  • 22.  RE: Tuner - the movie

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 15 days ago

    David --

    The comment came so unexpectedly, and so quickly, that I didn't catch it either. All I heard was Steinway and furniture. I had to do some searching to find out what he really said. Like I said, I was glad that the product placement was minimal, at best, and that it was not a typical everything-must-be-Steinway film, but the fact that Steinway received such a negative comment at all was such a surprise that I had to find out what was said. 



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    Geoff Sykes, RPT
    Los Angeles CA
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  • 23.  RE: Tuner - the movie

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 15 days ago
    Companies pay big bucks to have their products displayed in movies. While I did see some other brands, most of the pianos were Yamahas, including the one on stage for the final concert and at the maestro's house. 





  • 24.  RE: Tuner - the movie

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 6 days ago
    In case anyone might be interested, I looked on imdb.com (internet movie database) for '"tuner". There were about 30 titles that included the word, one from 1914. I didn't check for availability, but just the quantity was surprising, and fun! 

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  • 25.  RE: Tuner - the movie

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 6 days ago
    I saw a funny Australian movie a few years back about a love-sick piano tuner. I don’t recall its name but I remember one scene where he drives to his customer’s house, gets out of his car, goes to the trunk to fetch a pair of dark sunglasses and a cane and then walks to his customer’s house as if he were blind. Very funny.

    John Gunderson.
    Registered Piano Technician
    732-740-6674




  • 26.  RE: Tuner - the movie

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 16 days ago

    My wife, Judy, and I saw Tuner.

    I thought the most humorous technical faux-pas was Ruth's phone message to Nicky, requesting service for her "1930s Bechstein" grand piano with sticking keys. When he shows up the next day, her "Bechstein" is a 1960s Steinway L on screen. Further, Nicky removes all the keys to permit them to dry out on the floor - from a ceiling water leak that miraculously does not damage the piano's lid, strings, dampers, tuning pins, etc. - and the keys are from a vertical piano! The set crew had the L's action right there - why didn't they remove those 88 keys and spread them out all over the floor to dry out? Where did the vertical piano keys come from?? :-)

    We stayed for the credits to finish. Someone named Peter White is listed as the piano technical consultant. Anyone know him?

    David G. Hughes, RPT

    Baltimore Chapter



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    David Hughes RPT
    Vintage Case Parts
    Glyndon MD
    (443) 522-2201
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  • 27.  RE: Tuner - the movie

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 16 days ago
    David

    I thought Ruthie said she had a Bosendorfer. But the case didn't show that. I also noticed the upright keys, too. It was a brief shot and wasn't sure if I saw it right. 

    Wim





  • 28.  RE: Tuner - the movie

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 16 days ago

    Wim,

    Yes, Ruthie's "Bechstein" is a 1960s Steinway L, in one of those lovely bleached mahogany cases. Why didn't the script just have Ruthie say, "I have a 1960s Steinway grand piano." ? The directors/producers of the movie thankfully did not cloak any piano brand names anywhere else in the movie. Were they not permitted to use the word "Steinway" anywhere in the script? We certainly see numerous Steinway pianos on-screen.

    As for the keys, you saw it right. They are upright keys from a late-model Asian piano that Nicky has placed on the floor. I didn't realize 1960s Steinway grand pianos utilized those... this is to say I have never encountered any.

    David G. Hughes, RPT

    Baltimore Chapter 



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    David Hughes RPT
    Vintage Case Parts
    Glyndon MD
    (443) 522-2201
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  • 29.  RE: Tuner - the movie

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 6 days ago

    I saw the movie myself. I thought it was very good. I thought the representation of piano tuning and piano tuners was fairly accurate. The one thing I did notice was the lack of representation of the Piano Technicians Guild. I don't know how that happened, but it was certainly a missed opportunity. 



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    John Gunderson RPT
    Neptune City NJ
    (732) 740-6674
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  • 30.  RE: Tuner - the movie

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 6 days ago
    Regarding the mention of the PTG, as I said in an earlier post, I've heard that companies pay money to have their product featured or even mentioned in a movie. It might even be a requirement to follow copyright snd patent rules. I'm sure Steinway and Yamaha, and even Bosendorfer and Beckstein, were asked if their products could be featured in the movie. If the PTG was going to be mentioned, we would have had to pay money for that privilege and pay the appropriate fees. 





  • 31.  RE: Tuner - the movie

    Posted 6 days ago
    Really bearing in mind the portrayed misuse of piano tuning sensitive hearing the PTG might have been well to have been left out of it.

    We really don't want to be known as the PTSCC (Piano tuners' safe cracking community)

    Best wishes

    David P


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  • 32.  RE: Tuner - the movie

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 6 days ago
    I know you're kidding, David, but you do have a point. On the other hand, even without mentioning PTG, are all of us now in danger of the public thinking that we're safe crackers, regardless of our association to the PTG? I don't think so.  





  • 33.  RE: Tuner - the movie

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 6 days ago
    I don’t keep my hearing aids in a safe.

    John Gunderson.
    Registered Piano Technician
    732-740-6674




  • 34.  RE: Tuner - the movie

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 6 days ago
    Very good point, although I could use the money.

    John Gunderson.
    Registered Piano Technician
    732-740-6674




  • 35.  RE: Tuner - the movie

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 6 days ago

    Let's not forget that this is not a true representation of pianos, piano technology, piano tuning, piano brands, nor is it a true representation of safe cracking. It's a movie that pulled some ideas from a lot of places to bring together a very well done story. Story! It's a fantasy and, like most movies, you need to leave reality at the door when you walk in. I enjoyed being reasonably accurately represented as a piano tech by the main character, but pianos, and their maintenance, was really only a minor part of the movie. 

    Movie makers do not need to pay a product manufacturer for having their product in a movie unless they are highlighting that product. They do need to be careful of what they say about, or how they represent that product in the movie but otherwise it's just a prop. Manufactures, on the other hand, do need to pay the movie maker for Product Placement in a movie when that product is intentionally being highlighted. Neither of these was, in my opinion, the case in Tuner.

    With roughly 7000 piano tuners in the United States, and only about 2000 of them being members, (and not necessarily RPT members), of PTG, there was no place for PTG to be mentioned in this film unless it was a blatantly paid-for advertisement. I, personally, really enjoyed the fact that there appeared to be no intentional product placement in this film. I am, however, anxiously waiting for Steinway to react to the unmistakably negative comment about Steinway from the Maestro in the last scene. 

    And, in case you missed it, "Tuner" was not about tuning. Or a tuner. It was the nickname that was given the main character by the the safe cracking robbers. 



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    Geoff Sykes, RPT
    Los Angeles CA
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  • 36.  RE: Tuner - the movie

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 6 days ago

    Are you telling me Unleashed was not about a blind piano tuner and his daughter befriending a fighter?



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    Larry Messerly, RPT
    Bringing Harmony to Homes
    www.lacrossepianotuning.com
    ljmesserly@gmail.com
    928-899-7292
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  • 37.  RE: Tuner - the movie

    Registered Piano Technician
    Posted 6 days ago
    Wim, as always… good point.

    John Gunderson.
    Registered Piano Technician
    732-740-6674