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  • Posted in: Pianotech

    John Ginter wrote: "Cruise ship pianos are bolted to the deck. No tipping allowed (or desired)." Well, in a perfect world they are bolted to the deck! That is NOT always the case! DAHIK!!! ------------------------------ Terry Farrell Farrell Piano ...

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    Hi Will, Thanks for the interesting saga. I'm not sure if I qualify as a "sage" but my company, Reyburn Pianoworks makes keyframes and keysets. But it would be very rare, almost unheard of for use to replace an original Steinway keyframe, especially ...

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    Chupps Piano had one of these ( a grand) on display at the St Louis Convention . There are techs in PTG that are knowledgeable on how to tune and repair the screwstringer as well as parts repair , stringing etc ------------------------------ James Kelly ...

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    Hi Jim, The device was on a win 11 laptop using the chrome browser. Regards, Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.P.T. Non calor sed umor est qui nobis incommodat mailto:pianotuna@yahoo.com http://www.donrose.ca/ Box 37181, Regina, SK S4S 7K4 ...

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    Hi Jim, I got it installed. They need an owners manual imo. Sampling is a bit unusual as it doesn't do every note. iifc it stops at a5? (I should have noted that down). I think 3 notes did not sample correctly, but there is no "instant" response ...

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    Hi Jim, Thanks for your answer I got in--it looks as if it works like a web page--so it works with android, apple, windows, mac, etc. Please correct me if I am wrong. I've not had any luck with down loading the app. Regards, Don Rose, ...

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    Hi Don! Cody says apps for both platforms are coming. It's beta software. It's currently a web app, so "good luck with all the browsers". It works on my iPhone/iPad is all I can attest to. He reworked his domains, now the app is here: https://www.pianotuning.app/ ...

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    white beard and hair, I thought you were sagely. Sorry, won't make the mistake again. :-) The piano is an L, it has the L shaped tail. As for string heights I measure the ends of each section and average Bass 199mm, bored at 56, tenor 1293, bored ...

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    Will - while we're waiting for your sagely collegues to consider your situation, I'll dable a bit. First, according to Kehl & Kirkland, the last regular O was dated 11/7/1924, while last Louis XVI was dated 7/20/1925, with L's being infroduced in ...

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    Hi David, Well, I thought I did. I gave the specs and figured any intelligent human being could do the math. (I am of course being jocular, lest anyone thinks I'm being insulting). I've used Lo-Torqs on every repinning/restringing job for quite ...

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    Working my way backwards in responding to most recent: Peter Gray - Indeed, the principles of Larudee Lo-torq pins have been widely acknowledged, though I'm not sure (as in, I don't know) how they would work in the case of individual repairs, however, ...

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    This may seem to be a very dumb question, but bear with me. For those of you out there who make new keyboards and may be in a position to know, I hope you can help me a bit. The piano is a Steinway L from the mid 1920's. I have regulated many hundreds ...

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    Mason, If you go to this link in Pianotech you will find several article on the screw stringer tuning. https://my.ptg.org/communities/community-home/digestviewer/viewthread?MessageKey=4db9067b-216c-4984-9b5d-f901ac0127e7 .

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    The solution to oversize tuning pins is to use Lo-Torq pins. The pinblock size is 3.5/0 but the exposed size is 2/0. The geometry here was written about in the journal many years ago. Sure...they're more expensive...but they're far better. Simply charge ...

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    Or....find a recently retired tech and ask to borrow. ------------------------------ Cindy Strehlow, RPT Urbana, IL ------------------------------

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    If this is the old style metal clip, replace it with the new plastic clip. If it's the new style plastic clip, replace it with a new clip. Make sure it is firmly screwed in. ------------------------------ Larry Messerly, RPT Bringing Harmony to Homes ...

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    Terrence, Generally there are not loose tuning pins on the cruise ship Yamahas. The pianos are now old enough that they are being rebuilt. The tuning pins never feel the same once rebuilt. ------------------------------ Carl Lieberman RPT RPT ...

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    Hi Jim, What platforms does viper tune work on? Thanks in advance. Regards, Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.P.T. Non calor sed umor est qui nobis incommodat mailto:pianotuna@yahoo.com http://www.donrose.ca/ Box 37181, Regina, SK S4S ...

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    Peter, Why not simply replace the clips? Peter Grey Piano Doctor ------------------------------ Peter Grey Stratham NH (603) 686-2395 pianodoctor57@gmail.com ------------------------------

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    Howdy y'all. I'm a bit new to the platform so forgive my inexperience. I'm a student tech at a college who's learning how to be a technician in a pseudo apprenticeship. I bought a Screwstringer about two years ago for $200 out of the sheer curiosity of ...

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    Hello all, I have a client with a buzz that seems to be coming from a PLS dehumidifier rod vibrating against the clip in a grand piano. The buzz went away when I slid the rod around, but I am concerned about it coming back. My normal instinct would ...

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    Posted in: Electronic Tuning

    Try here: https://www.vipertune.com The access code does not appear to be gated, I got one immediately. It's in beta, so it's not on the app store. It may never be in the app store, because it's implemented entirely as a web app! ------------------------------ ...

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    Norm, gluing the pin block to the plate isn't something I'd thought about. It makes me remember those original Krazy Glue TV commercials from almost 50 years ago where the guy in a hard hat glues himself to an I Beam. Simpler times. ------------------------------ ...

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    Hello All, There will be two tuning camps this year! The first camp is 5 days, April 27-May 1 (arrive April 26 & leave May 2), and is $600. This camp is for those who are at late beginner or early intermediate levels when it comes to aural ...

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    Sometime in the last ten years or so Tim Barnes did a technical at his chapter and did some experimenting with all the ways to tighten a pin. There is video of this out there somewhere. CA won, for a lot of reasons. I also prefer it in most cases because ...

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    Hello All! The Appalachian Piano Tech Camp is returning in 2026 on May 15 & 16 in rural WV. There are 25 seats available, although we tend to fill up fast. Basic room & board is included in the $100 fee. We will have between 20-40 learning stations ...

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    Hi All! Long time no chat. Just want to share a few thoughts... To respond to the actual question asked: I have replaced pins that had been previously treated and they were fine. To respond to everyone else: - I'm with Anthony Willey for disliking ...

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    Responding to John Ginter's advice to replace with larger pins instead of treating with CA glue. "To preserve future options, I would not treat tunings pins with CA glue. Larger size pins would extend usable life of instrument with more certainty." ...

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    Cruise ship pianos are bolted to the deck. No tipping allowed (or desired). John Ginter Plum Piano Restoration, Inc. e-mail: john@plumpiano.com

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    I don't know you guys personally, but I am going to defend myself a little. First, don't go overboard. Funny! "As much as it will take" may have been a poor choice of wording, but on blocks with bushings i do several drops at a time and go back, usually ...

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    Thanks again for your help! Sent from my iPhone

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    Hi! THe UK supplier is Fletcher and Newmann https://www.fletcher-newman.co.uk/ If they need a name for recommendation, he's welcome to mention me. I have had good experience with Aliexpress also. Best wishes David P -- - - ...

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    I'd like to see some photos of the drilled bushing technique. Most grands don't have much room to drill without hitting the coils, plate or pins. A Yamaha I tuned yesterday had only about 3mm around the pins. ------------------------------ Philip Jamison ...

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    Steve, So, as is par for the course, you've gotten the full range of opinions from 'a little', to 'as much as it will take', bushings...no bushings, from the top, from the bottom...value added...value diminished...ad infinitum My opinion is ...

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    I have had nice luck with thin ca glue, very good results especially in institutions where horrible humidity conditions have rendered even the toughest pianos with loose pins far before they should have issues. In most cases I have not gone back to ...

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    David, On a different subject. I have a friend, who is a fine piano player. He's recently moved to Dublin, because of the political B.S.here in the U.S. Long story. He has purchased a vintage 7'6" Bechstein and would like to do some regulating on it. ...

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    Hi Steve. I agree with David Love regarding not likely to be any problem with installing larger tuning pins after CA treatment. But I have to ask: What ship is this? I’ve been tuning pianos on the Royal Caribbean and Carnival ships at the Port of Tampa ...

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    David, that was Joe Garrett that wrote of drilling small holes through the bushings right next to the tuning pins.

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    I too tune Yamaha C grands on cruise ships but have never experienced ones with loose pins. I have seen poor string replacements and many, many spills. Tuning stability is excellent because pianos are tuned frequently. To preserve future options, I would ...

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    I have had spotty results over the years with CA glue. It's no so dry here, so I don't see that many pianos with dried out pinblocks. I believe that one critical factor is the age of the glue and its viscosity. CA glue has a shelf life if you open ...

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    If it's just a few pins, perhaps replacing the loose tuning pins is the better option? It's also fairly easy to drill through the tuning pin bushing with a 1/8" drillbit. I like this method since it provides a channel for the CA glue which I think is ...

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    Steve, I am of the opinion that "more is not necessarily better", therefore I treat minimally, but in two or three passes. I really don't care about getting "down into the pinblock" if bushings are present. I treat only the bushings (in essence). ...

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    I am currently replacing the pinblock in a C7 from the late 1970's. It was treated with CA in several places. I believe the hard bushings slowed the penetration into the block itself but did wick through enough to adhere the pinblock to the underside ...

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    I've had improved results by tipping the grands on their side and applying the CA underneath the block. It wicks in, so the piano doesn't need to be completely perpendicular to the ground. I use a "one-man" tilter, so I can do it by myself. I've never ...

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    David S., It’s a relief to know that someone out there writes (and reads) Nahautl. Or a least a hybrid of Latin and Nahuatl. Joe Wiencek NYC

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    RE: ViperTune

    Posted in: Electronic Tuning

    Hi Jim: How does one sign up to test it? I don't see any links other than the whitepaper. I couldn't find it in the App store for iphone. Am I missing something? ------------------------------ Paul McCloud, RPT Accutone Piano Service www.AccutonePianoService.com ...

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    Someone might recall who it was that had posted their method for drilling small holes in the walls of the tuning pin bushings to guide glue to block. ------------------------------ David Skolnik [RPT] Hastings-on-Hudson NY (917) 589-2625 -------- ...

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    Might this Metalstitch link help Metalstitch | Metalock | In-Place Machining Company (inplace.com)

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    No, I don't think it will hamper replacing the pins with larger size pins later and, in this case, it sounds like you don't have much choice. Note that Yamaha and Kawai use hard bushings and so if the fit around the pin is quite snug I'm not sure whether ...